I recommend everyone read Julie Roys’ article, “EXCLUSIVE: John MacArthur Shamed, Excommunicated Mother for Refusing to Take Back Child Abuser” as background for my article below.
“Great things are accomplished through the little ones, the weak ones, the vulnerable ones. When those cries for seeking, saving, protecting, and refuge are heard and honored, then our enemy is silenced. What power the voices of the little ones have if we heed their cries! When we silence the cries of the vulnerable ones (child or adult), we are not protecting God’s house. In fact, we are desecrating it, amplifying the voice of the enemy in the house of our God. When we follow our Lord, we bring his redemptive power to bear, not only in the lives of victims but also in our own. God takes the sins against the vulnerable and uses their cries to call us to transformation into his likeness. I know, for he has used the battered, broken lives of many victims to do his redemptive work in me. They have been his gift to me.
Jesus drove out those who took what was not theirs, those who made his temple unholy. He then welcomed the little ones and the weak ones, those who establish strength against God’s enemies and silence his foe. How then can we, the people of God, silence the little ones and the weak ones when they speak out and say, “Save us now”? We thwart God’s redemptive work in his people and in this world when we protect our institutions and titles and positions rather than the vulnerable.
May the body of Christ be bold in driving out unrighteousness and welcoming the vulnerable ones, thereby establishing power against God’s enemies and silencing his foes. May we go with love and truth into the dens of robbers, no matter where we find them, be they in our pews and communities or in our pulpits, and transform them into places filled with the glory of our great God, who became vulnerable for us.”
“Redeeming Power: Understanding Authority and Abuse in the Church” by Diane Langberg, page 142.
Baptist Pastor, J.D. Hall and his producer/co-host, David Morrill, have published a podcast/video in response to Julie Roys’ article linked above. In this video Hall and Morrill attempt to defend John MacArthur and discredit Roys, labeling her a yellow journalist, among other things.
Not only do they attack Roys, but they also claim George Floyd committed suicide, and mock Kyle J. Howard’s pronunciation of the word “trauma.” (I am told Howard has a speech impediment.) This behavior is something you might expect to encounter among some immature boys in middle school, but not in adult men who call themselves Christians. Sadly however, this behavior seems to be on the increase in some patriarchal groups of white Christian males.[Note from editor: on 7/16/2022 I received word from Kyle J. Howard that he does not have a speech impediment. My sincere apologies to Mr. Howard. I should have went to the source and verified this information. See screenshot below.]
“I couldn’t help but think of the question I hear over and over: “Why don’t victims report?” I wished every person who asked would put themselves in the victims’ place. Into the witness seat where they had to relive their horror in front of an abuser who reveled in the details. Into the police station where they had to tell anyone who asked exactly what happened. Into the stirrups for a rape kit exam where the violation they suffered and the parts they wanted to hide were on full display, touched and photographed. And then, much of the time, the kit ended up buried in the back of a police station. Victims also had to face officers who asked what they’d been wearing. Or a prosecutor who just couldn’t be bothered. Or a judge who wouldn’t take the simplest steps to protect them. Why don’t victims report? Because most of the time, the only thing reporting accomplishes is heightening the trauma to almost unbearable levels. It invites an audience to view your sexual assault. It’s choosing to have no voice in the process after having it stolen from you. That’s why victims don’t report.”
“What is a Girl Worth: My story of breaking the silence and exposing the truth about Larry Nasser and USA Gymnastics” by Rachael Denhollander, page 362
Below are some clips from “Yellow Julie,” the YouTube video published by Hall and Morrill. I will make some comments after each clip.
Having watched this entire video a few times now, J.D. Hall makes it clear he has not had time to read the Julie Roys article which they are discussing. They have, however, undoubtedly discussed their intent to frame Roys’ piece as a desperate effort to take down MacArthur by digging up dirt on the poor guy from years and years ago.
As highlighted above in the Rachael Denhollander quote, many abuse victims do not want to ever talk about what happened to them. Others may not talk for years, for a number of complex reasons. This is why many States have discarded Statute of Limitations laws on sexual abuse crimes. In Roys’ article, she gives us the reason she is writing this article 20 years after the abuse occurred:
“In the months between her shamings, GCC members and staff repeatedly harassed and visited Eileen at home, urging her to obey the elders, according to Eileen and dozens of pages of court documents obtained by The Roys Report.
For all this time, Eileen has remained silent about her ordeal out of concern for her minor children. She added that she feared backlash from Christians in her community, who revere MacArthur and GCC.
But now, Eileen’s children are adults. And for the sake of vulnerable women and children at GCC—and at the many churches and institutions influenced by MacArthur—she’s speaking now.
Abuse is abuse no matter if it occurred yesterday or 20 years ago. It needs to be reported to Law Enforcement and the abusers and those who have enabled them need to be named. Eileen spoke up “for the sake of vulnerable women and children.” She has done a brave thing. She has done the right thing.
As Charles L. Bailey, Jr. stated in the book he authored, titled “In the Shadow of the Cross: The True Account of My Childhood Sexual and Ritual Abuse at the Hands of a Roman Catholic Priest:”
“These people, these evil beings dressed in priestly garb, are not men of God. They deserve no respect, no reverence, no tolerance.
We must come forward and expose these priests. Until we make them known, the clerical abuse continues.
It takes time – a lot of time. It is now forty-four years since my abuse started. Time heals all wounds? Baloney. The abuse has left permanent scars on us, scars deep into our souls.
We need to come forward, to tell our accounts of the abuse we suffered. Remaining silent keeps our children and grandchildren at risk. It is too late for us who are now adults, but we must save the young.”
Do you know who else attempted to minimize sexual abuse that was covered-up because it happened long, long ago? If you said Sovereign Grace Churches, you would be correct.
“When you gotta go twenty years back, I’m gonna call this a big, fat, nothing burger; with a side of feminism and also with a dipping sauce of who gives a crap.
Pastor J.D. Hall has revealed his heart and it is cold. David Morrill agrees with Hall, “Yep.”
I often read the Gospels and I can confidently say that Christ would never respond in this manner.
David Morrill: “The husband who, I don’t think they can verify he was being abusive, was convicted of actual abuse against the children and is now in prison. He was thrown in prison in 2005 and he is still there.”
(I believe the “they” who cannot verify that David Gray was being abusive are the GCC Elders, in which case I would have to question their critical reasoning skills, as well as their competency to hold the office of Elder.)
JD Hall: Okay.
David Morrill: So, she’s looking back and saying, “well the church didn’t report this as they were supposed to,” and they didn’t believe the wife. Although, as far as I can tell, she may have at least had some, some responsibility…
(Responsibility? Do you mean like reporting it the leaders of her local church? What else could she have done?)
JD Hall: For all we know there were jurors that didn’t believe the wife!
(Talk about yellow journalism! Pastor Hall has no factual reason to think there were jurors that didn’t believe Eileen Gray, quite the contrary, all the jurors did believe her! How do I know that? Keep reading.)
David Morrill: Right, I mean there were enough that they threw, when she reported it and he was indicted, and I mean, it was enough that he was convicted. I don’t know the details of the trial…
JD Hall: Which is like nine out of twelve, but for all we know, there were jurors who didn’t, who didn’t believe.
(Pastor Hall demonstrates that he knows very little about felony trials.)
“In California criminal cases, a jury trial is where 12 members of the community are assembled to hear the evidence and decide whether or not a defendant is guilty of the crime or crimes with which he or she is charged.
All persons accused of misdemeanors or felonies are entitled to a jury trial. The jurors must unanimously agree upon guilt before the defendant can be found guilty and convicted.”
Julie Roys is a well respected journalist. Her research is thorough. You can count on her articles to be accurate, honest, and fair. She has presented a bevy of evidence that bolsters her article yet, according to J.D. Hall, “Julie Roys is a good microcosm for what we don’t want you to be as a listener to Pulpit and Pen.”
Okay, I’m no mind-reader, but I gather that Pastor Hall doesn’t want his listeners to be factual truth -tellers that form their opinions on solid evidence. Rather, he seems to prefer people who believe him and his “for all we know” opinions.
Apparently, J.D. Hall and David Morrill want you to follow their example!
Pastor Hall calls Julie Roys a “stinking nut job.” That’s the kind of pastor that attracts people to Christ – said nobody ever. Hall’s tirade continues and I find it all disgusting.
Then Morrill mocks Julie Roys’ comment “Hardy has an M.Div. from The Master’s Seminary but no professional counseling credentials.” Morrill can’t seem to comprehend how this fact is relevant. It’s fairly obvious to me. Let me continue with Roys’ words, which clearly show why the fact that Hardy has no professional counseling credentials was relevant:
“During the first counseling session, which included Shannon and Hardy, David admitted he kicked one of the couple’s children and tried to suffocate the child.
In subsequent counseling sessions, David presented Hardy with a handwritten, four-page list of “sins” against Eileen and his children, Eileen said. On one of these pages obtained by The Roys Report, David admits he used a “belt & rod way too harshly—brutally” on a child. He also says he “tied up” and “locked up” the child and was not always “adequately dressed” in the child’s presence.
According to Eileen, Hardy refused to take or read David’s list.
The Roys Report reached out to Shannon and Hardy, specifically asking about these events, but they did not respond.
However, in an official court declaration in 2002 concerning Eileen’s legal separation from David Gray, Hardy stated: “I am of the opinion that Eileen simply doesn’t like David . . . and is using what she alleges to have happened with the children as leverage to put David out of their lives.”
Hardy accused Eileen in the declaration of having “a tendency to exaggerate” and exercising “faulty logic and irrational thinking.”
In contrast, Hardy said David Gray was “fairly laid back” and that after several monitored visits between David and his children, “our church concluded that monitors were not necessary.”
Hardy counseled Eileen to forgive David “even if he wasn’t repentant,” Eileen testified. “He would teach me over and over ‘the threefold promise of forgiveness’ . . .” she stated, “where you act as though it never happened, and you never bring it up again, and you never tell anyone about it.”
Eileen also testified that Hardy urged her to allow David back into the family’s home and to model for the children how to “suffer for Jesus” by enduring David’s abuse. Eileen stated that she was willing to endure the abuse herself but was not willing to allow her children to be abused,”
Changing gears just a bit, did you know that George Floyd committed suicide? Yep, that’s what Hall and Morrill claim. You all remember Floyd:
George Perry Floyd Jr. (October 14, 1973 – May 25, 2020) was an African-American man who was murdered by a police officer in Minneapolis, Minnesota, during an arrest after a store clerk suspected Floyd may have used a counterfeit twenty-dollar bill, on May 25, 2020. Derek Chauvin, one of four police officers who arrived on the scene, knelt on Floyd’s neck and back for 9 minutes and 29 seconds. After his murder, protests against police brutality, especially towards black people, quickly spread across the United States and globally. His dying words, “I can’t breathe,” became a rallying cry.
The City of Minneapolis settled a wrongful death lawsuit with Floyd’s family for $27 million. Chauvin was convicted on two counts of murder and one count of manslaughter on April 20, 2021 and on June 25, 2021, was sentenced to 22.5 years in prison. The other three officers at the scene were also later convicted of violating Floyd’s civil rights.
If the kind and compassionate Pastor Hall were King he wouldn’t allow a funeral for those who commit suicide!
Were I King I wouldn’t allow Pastor Hall to be a Pastor!
Pastor Hall and Morrill are not fans of Kyle J. Howard. Pastor Hall implied above that Howard’s entire Twitter feed is made up of false claims of racism. In the clip below Morrill claims Julie Roys has no credibility because she interviewed Kyle J. Howard. They also poke fun at Howard several times in the video for pronouncing “trauma” as “twauma.”
I trust I have provided enough information to demonstrate whether it’s Julie Roys or J.D. Hall and David Morrill that warrant your trust.