Consider this post to be an extension of my post from last Friday. I had more information that I wanted to share, but I thought Friday’s post was long enough!
Friday’s post had a few comments about John Folmar’s experience level when he went to Dubai. The audio clip below was taken from an interview of John Folmar by David Helm and Jeremy Meeks on a podcast called “Preachers Talk.” The podcast is sponsored by 9 Marks and can be found on the 9Marks website. (Screen capture above.)
In this short audio, Folmar admits he was inexperienced when he arrived in Dubai in 2005. He mentions that UCCD was a thriving “International Church.” By thriving, he was not referring to their spiritual condition. He speaks in glowing terms of both Mark Dever and Thomas Schreiner. Dever was/is Folmar’s mentor so John places high value on anything Dever tells him. Folmar had spoken to Dever about C.J. Mahaney and Dever assured him that there was nothing to the charges made against Mahaney. He said the same to Mack Stiles. Stiles is another devoted follower of Dever, as you will hear from his own lips later in this post. By the way, Mark Dever and Thomas Schreiner preached at Mahaney’s run-away church plant in a show of support for C.J. Mahaney. You can see that in my blog titled “Hall of Shame.” It amazes me that so many of the Evangelical Christian celebrities demonstrated a total lack of discernment when it came to supporting a fellow member of their boy’s club, though it must be said that many of them undoubtedly supported Mahaney simply because he was their friend and fellow celebrity club member. Which is worse? IMO, blind loyalty and willful ignoring of factual, verifiable data.
Above we heard from the 9Marks-sponsored podcast, “Preachers Talk.” Below is a page on the 9Marks website which features “Missions Talk.” (Also sponsored by 9Marks.)
Here is an audio clip from the podcast in which Mark Dever and Mack Stiles comment on how they met and their friendship.
In this podcast, Dever and Leeman speak with Mack Stiles and Ryan Robertson. The overriding message appears to be that if you want to be a successful missionary and have a successful church your doctrine must align with Dever’s “9 Marks of a Healthy Church.” As you can see in Mack Stile’s bio above, he is now the Director of Messenger Ministries, Inc., “a think tank working to develop healthy missions.”
Well, how much effort does Stiles have to put into his “think tank?” If you listen to the podcast above, all the thinking has been done for you. Simply become a 9Marxist in your doctrine and then establish a 9Marx church! I don’t know how many “thinkers” are in Stile’s think tank, but in my research, I could not find the names of any other thinkers in Stiles’s think tank! The only thing I did find were the names of four others on the Board of Messenger Ministries, Inc.
The information below is taken from Mission Ministries Inc.’s 990 IRS form for 2021.
I don’t know who Ted Callahan is, but if you go to Friday’s post you will find him prominently mentioned in the Acknowledgment section of a book Stiles authored. David Lawrence is a long-time friend of Stiles. They both attended UCCD, then they both went to the Redeemer Church of Dubai plant. From there Stiles went to pastor a church in Erbil, Iraq. Lawrence went with him. Stiles pastored the church for about 2 years and then returned to the United States. I believe David Lawrence became the pastor and remained there for another two years. John Lovett is an attorney and is a member and elder of Third Avenue Baptist church. Tristin Stiles is Mack’s son. Tristen is also a member and elder at Third Avenue Baptist.
You will notice that Mack Stiles received a salary of $96,154 in 2021. In 2022 Mack Stile’s salary was increased by about $13,000 to $109,615. Not a bad raise. Who says there isn’t money to be made in the Christian Industrial Complex?
While Tristen Stiles doesn’t receive a salary from the Missionary Message Inc. think tank, he does receive a tax benefit. His house just happens to be listed as the office of Mack’s think tank.
While it’s impossible to know the monetary value of listing the office of Missionary Ministries Inc. at Tristin Stiles’s home, below is a document from the IRS that gives you a good idea of what you can deduct.
Another interesting item I found in Missionary Ministries Inc. IRS 990 form for the year 2022 is the fact that the think tank donated $50,000 to 9Marks! The interesting thing about this is that the think tank only took in slightly more than $50,000 in 2022.
I would really like to know who donated all the money in 2020 and 2021 to Missionary Messengers Inc. I have a hunch some may have come from 9Marks. Unfortunately, 9Marks doesn’t file a 990 because they claim they are a church. The tax laws need to be changed because more and more wealthy para-church organizations are using this loophole to keep their salaries away from the public.
As you can see below, Mack Stiles is a regular speaker at the Cross-Con. It would also be nice to know how much he is paid for his one-hour talks each year.