Georgia Baptist Convention- It’s the Sin, Stupid!

The pharisees minded what God spoke, but not what He intended. They were busy in the outward work of the hand, but incurious of the affections and choice of the heart. So God was served in the letter, they did not much inquire into His purpose; and therefore they were curious to wash their hands, but cared not to purify their hearts.    Jeremy Taylor



The Christian blogging community has received national attention in recent weeks due to widespread agreement that they are responsible for bringing attention to the Ergun Caner debacle at Liberty University. Until the Internet became available to "average" people, sin in churches and Christian institutions was often buried. Pastors misused their pulptis as "bully pulpits" and silenced Christians who would dare to raise questions about the conduct of Christian leadership.


For many years, Christians, who raised objections, would be "thrown out" of churches or would have their reputations impugned via "whisper campaigns" started by the very leaders who were to serve their congregations. Instead of servant leaders, within certain churches and conventions, the evangelical church spawned leaders of the servants.Such leaders rule with self-assured "authority", running roughshod over their flock.


Can't believe it? Please link to an article we posted about an grandmother who was "perp-walked" out of her own church. The pastor called the police from the pulpit! In the early days of this blog,the more we investigated claims of abuse by church leaders, the more shocked we became. We found pastors making exorbitant salaries and receiving expensive gifts, pedophilia and rape covered up, strange doctrines and self-absorbed,hyper-authoritarian pastors and leaders who stomped on their people for their own selfish interests. As we have interviewed folks, we learned about various tactics of spiritual abuse which are used to keep the membership quiet. Confronting sin was called "gossiping." People were booted from fellowships for simply raising questions about pastoral lifestyles.


Folks, there is rank sin in the evangelical church in America. However, the leaders have latched onto books such as  The Cross Centered Life by C J Mahaney and twist its words to claim sin in the body and give the pastors a pass. The SBC is hemorrhaging members and young people are rejecting the faith. I would venture to say that the hypocrisy in the leadership of today's churches is a major factor in these trends. One only needs to read "antitestimonials" at websites such as to see the view of today's churches.


There are still wonderful churches in America, but there are some very, very bad Christian leaders who are hurting the cause for Christ. So, God raised up a bunch of "sheep" who wouldn't take it anymore. Some of these sheep, including yours truly, were on the receiving end of abusive church tactics. We started writing about our experiences. Lo and behold, others started commenting, saying that they, too, had seen issues in their churches, or, even worse, were the victims of spiritual abuse. Many thought they were the only ones who had such experiences. And so, the Fellowship of the Wounded and Won't Be Quiet About It Anymore" was born


Well, the big boys couldn't take it. Acting like the Pharisees of old,they decided that exposing sin was….DIVISIVE! They did not want people talking about these things because it was…GOSSIP! So they got together and all agreed that this "blogging" stuff needs to be stopped. So, the Georgia Baptist Convention voted to "condemn" all blogging that was negative. Funny thing about this resolution. It was aimed at a very brave man who found PORNOGRAPHY on his pastors' (yep, plural) computers and was told to "shut up" about it. Such a response cannot be found in Scripture. In fact, Scripture makes a major point that everything that is done in the dark will be brought into the light.


So, he decided to write about this travesty. Well, it is against the unwritten rules of "sinning pastors" to allow anybody to talk about their naughty, little secrets. So, the Georgia Baptist Convention, at the urging of the former lead pastor in this mess, wrote an anti-blogging resolution. We will be looking at each part of this ridiculous resolution over the next few days.  Even the most uneducated can see the motivation and intent  behind this foolish resolution. (What are they teaching in seminaries these days)?




WHEREAS, the American people have the distinct privilege of freedom of speech as provided by our United States Constitution, and this resolution is not intended to limit that freedom of speech we all value so much;


It appears that freedom of speech is honored by the GBC so long as it does not impact the GBC or pastors. The poorly educated leaders of this convention have obviously not studied what brought about our Founding Fathers concern for freedom of speech.  Monarchies and dictatorships have sought to stifle freedom of speech when it is critical of said leadership.  Everyone is happy with "nice" speech that compliments the king. But, repressive leaders would jail and kill those who would dare to speak out against injustice.


King George was not happy when the colonists began to protest his onerous taxes and  attempted to jail those who would cause "dissent. The Soviet Union henchmen would jail, torture and kill those who would dare disagree with their totalitarian order. Repressive measures have been used by totalitarian regimes to quell expression of discontent. However, such measures to "control divisive speech" only resulted in revolutions that have changed the face of the world.


The founders of this nation knew that freedom of speech must be preserved at all costs. And they were not talking about "nice" speech. They were protecting the right to deeply and profoundly disagree with the government. Yes, there are some well-defined limits. One cannot yell, "Fire" in a crowded movie theater.  But one can organize and decry the President or Congress without fear of reprisal. And that is how it should be. If only "nice" speech is protected, someday the government could come for those Christians who speak out against abortion or other causes.


In fact, it was verbal protests that led to civil rights. In America, the white Baptist churches largely supported discrimination on Biblical grounds. (As an aside, this is how egotistical pastors misuse Scripture to justify their sinful actions). When African Americans and other Christian finally spoke strongly (and not "nicely" ) about the hypocrisy of the church, the church was forced to make changes. Somehow, today's churches forget how Scripture was misused to subjugate African Americans. Churches can often misuse Scripture to justify just about anything and this is how they control people.


So, the major point here is this. Freedom of speech is rarely used to protect nice, happy speech. It is meant to protect pointed and disagreeable speech that often exposes flaws and sin in the entrenched, ecclesiastical bureaucracy.



WHEREAS responsible blogging can be a means of promoting the flow of information and encouragement of our people, but certain people use this tool for divisive and destructive rhetoric at the expense of peace among the Brethren;


I am not sure that the GBC is reading the same version of the Bible that I am. Peace among the brethren is not possible when sin is allowed to fester. This is a Bible verse that many in the GBC leadership should memorize.


Jeremiah 6:13-14 For from the least of them to the greatest of them, everyone is greedy for gain, and from the prophet even to the priest, everyone deals falsely. And they have healed the brokenness of my people superficially saying, “Peace. peace,” but there is no peace.



Jesus called the Pharisees, snakes. That probably upset their day and their peace was disrupted. Oh, that Jesus!  Blogging is used to point out the transgressions of the leadership. It is sin of the leaders that is responsible for the division in the church, not the blogs. It is their willingness to seek out power and money that causes pain. It is their willingness to be complicit in the sin of covering up the transgression of the leadership. It is the unwillingness of leaders to deal with their own wrondoings that have spawned the blogs.


Blogs are not responsible for division in the churches. It is men and women in leadership who refuse to deal with their own transgressions.



WHEREAS blogging is also being used by some as a tool for personal attacks upon other Christian Brothers and Sisters, and this critical and divisive use promotes a negative view of the Southern Baptist Convention in the eyes of the society we are striving to reach with the Gospel (James 3:6,14);


What are they teaching in seminaries these days? Who causes the negative view of the Southern Baptist Convention? I say it is those who are sinning who cause the "negative view." Once again, I refer you to They list every pastor who is arrested for sexual immorality or embezzlement. Maybe they are the ones responsible for the negative view of the SBC? The Bible sees this  differently.


Jeremiah 5:26 (The prophet speaking for God):…” for wicked men are found among My people…they set a trap, they catch men.” Then, “An appalling and horrible thing has happened in the land. The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests rule on their own authority.” (vv. 30-31)


The hypocrisy of the SBC (and the rest of the evangelical denominations for that matter) have resulted in a negative view of the church in America. It's the sin, stupid, not the bloggers.


In fact, bloggers can be credited with exposing sin, hypocrisy, fake degrees, greed, lying, sexual immorality and pride that infects the church in America.


Here is the bottom line. If pastors and leaders would deal with sin, and stop hiding behind the pulpit, the negative view of the SBC might change. It was my own front seat view of callousness and hypocrisy in one church that led to my leaving the SBC. Do I have a negative view of the SBC? You betcha! That view was not caused by blogs. It was caused by my own personal experience.


It was my contact with other bloggers that gave me hope for the church in America. There are actually people out here who care about the purity of the church.Too bad the GBC doesn't place purity over hypocrisy.


Georgia Baptist Convention- It’s the Sin, Stupid! — 9 Comments

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    Nice POST!!!

    F Y I (and good reading),

    …………..The below was posted on another blog just after this was read at the GBC by a HUGE Disciple of Mike Everson….the Chairman of The Ga Baptist Convention, Josh Buice. Who is Josh Buice? He is a pastor now in Tenneessee who is a former member of Prays Mill with me and who is his father in Law – C J Ellis – the Chairman of the Deacons who was in charge of throwing out the Doug and Tracey Pirkle (a former Treasurer, Deacon, Sunday School teacher, Choir member etc.,) for just standing in opposition of the vote (VOTED NO) to remove Linda for questioning the Deacons about the PORNOGRAPHY issues and other deceptive issues at PMBC

    Josh Buice Says:

    November 21, 2007 at 3:07 pm

    While I agree that some of the language used in the resolution is not exactly clear, I do know that the intentions of the resolution is not to stand against simple differences with exegesis. I am from Georgia and I grew up in a Georgia Baptist Church. I am connected to several of the key players in the GA Baptist Convention, and I know that the resolution is not intended to be an outright attack against blogging.

    I am currently aware of one specific attack that is going on against my former church, pastor, and staff via the internet. The attack has been ongoing for well over a year now, and it has caused much instability and confusion within the church. Therefore, I believe the resolution is directly connected to this situation and is intended to make us aware of the harmful effects of such internet / blogging attacks.

    For the glory of God!

    Rev. Josh Buice

    And note he says he knows several of the KEY players…..Yeah he sure does because HE is a huge Everson disciple and follower….

    This is how I found out it was me……..

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    I have warned folks AWAY from Buice’s church here. He is extreme authoritarian. Most of the folks who used to comment on his blog are very arrogant.

    I have encountered him in the arena and the guy is in love with himself and his self righteousness. God help the poor person who gets “Church discipline” from him. He kind of reminds me of Marlon Brando in Apocalypse Now.

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    I know Josh Buice well too and he falls right with this crowd.

    He is a part of this new seminary thinking….PASTOR LEAD or YOUR OUT

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    Josh Buice, Clay Cox, Jarrod Everson, Ric Blazi, Chad Everson, and on and on and on…

    all Mike Everson disciples.

    I can list a bunch more if requested 🙂

    Preaching Hate is their best trait.

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    “WHEREAS blogging is also being used by some as a tool for personal attacks upon other Christian Brothers and Sisters, and this critical and divisive use promotes a negative view of the Southern Baptist Convention in the eyes of the society we are striving to reach with the Gospel”

    Here is the real interpretation of the GBC resolution and what they meant to say in defense of Mike Everson;

    Blogging is being used by Doug for personal attacks on Mike Everson and his Deacons and Staff Disciples, and this blog Doug is using to Expose Mike and telling the real TRUTH about issues to his church is reaching our members finally and the blog is starting to make them believe what is said about Mike in the eyes of his CULT members who he has worked so hard to deceive.

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    Lydia, funny you mentioned Col. Walter E. Kurtz (Brando) from the film Apocalypse Now: … “What do you call it when the assasins accuse the assasins? …… They lie! , and we must be merciful to those who lie… I hate them, I do hate them, those nabobs…”

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    “He is a part of this new seminary thinking….PASTOR LEAD or YOUR OUT”

    SBTS trains them well in this. You cannot imagine how arrogant these under 30 seminary grads are. They really do believe their education and titles give them “authority” in the Body. I call them little Grudemites. Or Mohlerites. They idolize both men. And of course, they have no real experience except striving to be like their idols.

    The motto is get them young. the older guys who have some real world experience (and real world responsibility) under their belt and go later to seminary are not as easy to brainwash.

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    He is just another one of those long listed disciples trained and birth underneath the direction of those within the Baptist Mafia.

    Remember Josh’s father in law, Spineless C J Ellis, was the Deacon Chairman under Mike Evilson oops Everson.

    His son Chad Everson just preach that same sermons on “Lets continue the Battle” or better known to them as Church Discipline at his church Trinity Baptist in Southaven MS…

    Stir the POT all you Everson Disciples, followers, boys, and it will get thicker and deeper!

    Looks like you are wanting some attention. OK I know someone who can do it. Remember?