"Do not waste time bothering whether you "love" your neighbor; act as if you did. As soon as we do this we find one of the great secrets. When you are behaving as if you loved someone you will presently come to love him."
Yvonne and Joel Trimble
Haiti for Christ (link)
One of our readers made the following comment that, in my estimation sums up Mark Driscoll.
“MD sounds so cool with his tattoos, t-shirts, and beer but he is more legalistic than your grandma who thinks beer is of the devil.” (Robin)
Yvonne Melchionne Trimble, from the mission group Haiti For Christ wrote TWW to share a personal experience with Mark Driscoll. In my estimation, her startling experience sums up the problem with Driscoll and radical complementarians who, in this instance, prove that “secondary theology trumps love”.
Here is Yvonne's testimony:
"My husband and I are missionary evangelists and have lived in Haiti since 1975. Two of our four children and one of our nine grandchildren were born there. We host Haiti’s most popular TV show that features the beauty of Haiti with a gospel message. Currently we are aired in 13 US Haitian markets and over 100 TV stations in Haiti. We do not pay for airtime as our content is in such demand.
Over 2 million Haitians, all age groups and economic strata, view our show http://www.youtube.com/telelouange (Editor's note: Watch this video-really well done)!
We came in contact with Mark Driscoll shortly after the quake I had posted a comment on an Act 29 blog. Mark Driscoll via Acts 29 gave for the one year anniversary which we organized and hosted. 100K Haitians answered our call to worship in front of the ruined Palais Nationale. Driscoll arrived in a private plane, I picked him up and he wanted to leave when the crowd was peaking. I sent a Haitian driver to take him back to the airport as I was not leaving the outpouring of God’s Spirit.
Not long after that Driscoll flew us to Orlando he wanted us to head up their Acts 29 mission work in Haiti since they had no experienced missionaries and we are experienced soul winners. Right before we were “signed on” to their 400 supporting churches, something we really could use. I said, “Wait I preach. I planted an English worship service in my living room for missionaries and business people.” That brought a icy response from Grudem, Mark’s right hand man, and it was the last we heard from them.
Driscoll stated dramatically at the Orlando event that “cessationism is heretical”. My understanding of MD’s brash, offensive, shock jock approach to the gospel is this. Mark thinks he is a prophet! And he thinks that is how prophets speak, abrupt, shocking statements of his interpretation of the scripture. Mark wants so badly to promote Piper’s theology that “cessationism is heretical” which I do believe; that he will go to any unscriptural extent to make an impression be it good or bad. Poor Mark he thinks he is God’s anointed one when all that is required of him is to walk humbly and love justice.”
Yvonne sent TWW another comment.
“They needed us in Haiti but when they realized we were egalitarian they dropped us like a hot potato! We were crushed: innocent and in need of the fellowship and financial support. I do believe God made the separation for our sakes as well as His. Christ has always been our source and we will not compromise on an issue to gain support no matter how badly we need it. At the time I said, “I may never preach again; but if He tells me to speak I must be available to obey.” There is no higher call than to obey the voice of my God. I will not let Mark Driscoll or Acts 29 stop me. Worthy is the Lamb.”
At the beginning of this post, I made a comment about theology trumping love. Several months ago, Wade Burleson sent Deb and me an address which he delivered in 2009 at the Midwest Region New Baptist Covenant Meeting in Norman, Oklahoma. It was titled: A PERSONAL CONFESSION – A PUBLIC CHALLENGE By Our Love Shall All People Know We Are His Disciples.
The full text of his comments can be found here. I believe someone should drag Driscoll and the rest of the Calvinistas into a room and make them listen to this message. Although Wade was addressing Baptists, I want to encourage you to replace the name "Baptist" with “Driscoll” or “Calvinsta” as you read it. Oh, I almost forgot! Wade Burleson is Reformed. Are you shocked to discover that there are actually Calvinists (not to be confused with Calvinistas – there is a HUGE difference!) who do not embrace complementarianism?
Here are a few excerpts from Wade Burleson's address:
"I now believe deep in my heart that Jesus is more concerned with how we Baptists treat each other than He is with what we Baptists teach each other. The people loved by Christ – particularly those who differ with me – are to be far more precious to me than any finer point of theology believed by me. Jesus did not tell me that it would be by my truth that all people would know that I am one of His followers, but by my love. The only description ever given of our Lord was that He was a person “full of grace and truth.” Word order is important in Scripture. Grace should not just precede truth – it should permeate it. Or, as our host Jimmy Allen so brilliantly puts it: “Our love should reach beyond our theology.”
"A few years ago, Pastor Julie Pennington-Russell held the hand of her 7-year-old son Taylor as she walked through the picket lines that had formed outside Calvary Baptist Church, Waco, Texas. The picketers, Baptists from surrounding churches, were there protesting Julie’s call to become the pastor of Calvary. As she walked through the picket line, her little boy squeezed her hand, pulled his mother down where she could hear, and then asked, “Mommy, who is Jezebel and why are they calling you that?”
"I have not changed what I believe, nor have I moved away from a conservative view of the infallible sacred text, but what has changed is the need to point out that people who disagree with me in interpretations of the Bible are less Christian, less “spiritual,” less loved by God than I. This is simply not true. The love of God for His people never changes or wanes, regardless of our actual or imagined theological unfaithfulness. Or perhaps I should state it more precisely: God’s love for His people never wanes or abates, regardless of my fellow Baptists’ actual or imagined theological unfaithfulness. Jesus warned us that we tend to focus on the speck in our brother’s eye while ignoring the plank in our own."
Later in the message, Wade makes the following remark:
"You may not like the fact that women are now being called by God to preach, or called by God to do missions, or called by God to teach. You may even consider it a violation of your principles for a woman to teach a man, or preach Christ to a man, or baptize a man, or lead a man, but there is one thing that you and I cannot – we must not – forget: You and I are called to love each and every sister in Christ who feels called to ministry. We are called to affirm the dignity of every Christian woman called to minister. We are commanded to treat them with respect and civility. We are also called to love, respect, and affirm the autonomy of local Baptist congregations and denominations that utilize these gifted women in ministry as they see fit. To censor or censure them, reject them, abuse them, or condemn their character is a sin of the first order."
Wade Burleson: "From your lips to the ears of legalists of every stripe." Well stated!
Protest Driscoll: Donate to Haiti for Christ
Oh, if any of you have a dime to spare, please think about Haiti for Christ. Just think of it this way. You will support God’s work and make a statement about Mark Driscoll at the same time! Link
Poppycock is an expression, which means “nonsense,” “twaddle,” or “codswallop”, among other definitions. For some reason, this term came to Deb's mind as she was thinking about Driscoll while writing the previous post. I’ll leave you to draw your own conclusions.
Two years ago, a rather engaging entertainer made an appearance on America’s Got Talent. His name is “Prince Poppycock”. We dedicate this to Mark Driscoll, who is well-represented by this entertainer as he sings the final words “Nothing really matters but me.”
Nothing Really Matters But Me! (Bohemian Rhapsody)
New blog for Survivors of Mars Hill
"It is still in the works, but if you would like to share your story as a “survivor” or family member of a Mars Hill “captive”, please submit your story for posting."
TWW is adding this website to our links page.
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