“God makes it very clear that the true church is to bring light into darkness. That means seeing what things really look like and calling them by their right name. I fear that a portion of Christendom today has become less interested in truth and more interested in power.”
-Diane Langberg, PhD
What does it mean if something is systemic?
Systemic is an adjective that means “of or relating to a system.” It is especially used to describe some phenomenon—an illness, a social problem—that affects every part of an entire system.
Two months ago Pastor Paul Watts interviewed new SBC Executive Committee Chairman Philip Robertson. They covered several subjects, but this post will deal only with the problem of sexual abuse perpetrated by SBC pastors. To begin with I will quote liberally from an article Christa Brown wrote which was published in Baptist News Global. Brown is a gifted writer, her analysis of the interview of Philip Robertson by Paul Watts is insightful, displaying Brown’s excellent legal mind.
I have included three clips from the Robertson interview. Each video clip is followed by relevant analysis from Brown. Following that I will highlight two recent occurrences of despicable child abuse by SBC pastors. These two cases illustrate that, unfortunately, pastoral sexual abuse within the SBC has not abated and does appear to be systemic.
Robertson attempts to discredit and sow doubt about the 2019 Abuse of Faith series, which brought national attention to the pervasive sexual abuse and cover-up problem in the SBC, the country’s largest Protestant faith group.
That six-part investigatory series, jointly published by the Houston Chronicle and the San Antonio Express-News, documented more than 700 people who were sexually abused by Southern Baptist clergy and church staff. Nearly all of them were children at the time of the abuse. This number was widely recognized as “the tip of the iceberg.”
Not only did the series disclose widespread abuse in local churches, but it also implicated top SBC officials and leaders in mishandling abuse reports.
Abuse of Faith was an exposé that should have been a launchpad for institutional change. Yet here we are more than five years later, and the needle has scarcely moved.
And now … Philip Robertson says this about Abuse of Faith:
“Essentially this article claimed that there was systemic sex abuse taking place within the Southern Baptist Convention that was elevated to a crisis. Now, there’s a lot of problems with that article, and there have been numerous individuals who have done a lot of digging into that article and have found a lot of it to be very problematic. … There were many, many people listed in that article who had no connection to Southern Baptists at all. In fact, there were only a very small … amount of the people named in that article who were part of the Southern Baptist Convention. But it was used to help create this idea that there was this systemic problem … that quite frankly, in my opinion, was not true.”
“Not true.”
Those words are a slap in the face for survivors of SBC clergy sex abuse.
And if Robertson won’t even acknowledge the systemic problem — if he thinks it’s “not true” — then it’s highly unlikely he’ll be working toward systemic solutions.
Robertson doesn’t tell us who the “numerous individuals” are that purportedly did “a lot of digging.” Personally, I suspect they aren’t really so “numerous,” and they may be just a “lone ranger” or two.
Whoever they are, Robertson’s “numerous individuals” almost certainly don’t carry the skill and professionalism of the investigatory journalists — Robert Downen, John Tedesco and Lise Olsen — who wrote Abuse of Faith, because if they were professionals, we likely would know their names.
And I just can’t understand how, with a straight face, Robertson can contend “only a very small” amount of the people named in Abuse of Faith were part of the Southern Baptist Convention. Anyone who reads the six-part series can readily see it’s all about the Southern Baptist Convention.
Source: “SBC leader offers little hope for change on addressing clergy sex abuse”
ANALYSIS Christa Brown, Baptist News Global, AUGUST 5, 2024 (Link to article on the Wayback Machine: https://web.archive.org/web/20240816130753/https://baptistnews.com/article/sbc-leader-offers-little-hope-for-change-on-addressing-clergy-sex-abuse/
Robertson also had a terrible take on the 2022 Guidepost investigatory report, which confirmed the horror of the SBC’s abuse crisis and documented “some senior SBC leaders had protected or even supported alleged abusers.”
But Robertson says this about it: “When Guidepost finished their investigation, they essentially found no evidence of sexual abuse.”
Then he described it as “a praise God moment” — as if the Guidepost report were something Southern Baptists should celebrate.
It appears Robertson is effectively discounting the evidence in the Guidepost report related to Johnny Hunt and Paul Pressler. But more importantly, Robertson is wrongly treating the Guidepost report as if it were solely about whether Executive Committee members committed sexual abuse, even though it was about so much more than that.
The Guidepost report documented SBC officials’ decades-long practice of ignoring sexual abuse reports “even if it meant that convicted molesters continued in ministry.” It also revealed their deceit in claiming an abuser database was impossible to build and maintain, even as, all the while, the Executive Committee was keeping a secret list of its own.
The report also showed SBC officials’ cruel treatment of survivors with stonewalling and hostility. (My own name appears dozens of times in the report precisely because the Executive Committee treated me so terribly. So, I take it personally to hear documented meanness now described in “praise God” terms.)
Many survivors of abuse within the SBC have said what did them even greater harm than the sexual abuse itself was how they were treated within the faith community. Yet Robertson completely ignores the Executive Committee’s own documented maltreatment of survivors.
Source: “SBC leader offers little hope for change on addressing clergy sex abuse”
ANALYSIS Christa Brown, Baptist News Global, AUGUST 5, 2024 (Link to article on the Wayback Machine: https://web.archive.org/web/20240816130753/https://baptistnews.com/article/sbc-leader-offers-little-hope-for-change-on-addressing-clergy-sex-abuse/
Next up, Robertson makes clear he’s not in favor of a denominational database to track credibly accused clergy sex abusers.
“There have been some controversial recommendations, particularly regarding a database of alleged offenders within the Southern Baptist Convention,” he says. “What makes that problematic … is the legal liability associated with that. … Whoever is in charge of that database, there would always be a danger of them potentially getting something wrong … of naming someone on that database who was ‘credibly accused’ but in reality they were innocent.”
The only thing good about Robertson’s remark is that it provides a window into what has always been true: SBC officials’ resistance to a database never really has been about local church autonomy — because providing local churches with a resource for information doesn’t intrude on their autonomy — but rather, it always has been about trying to minimize liability risks to the institution.
SBC officials fear the potential lawsuits that could be brought by their own SBC pastors who might be listed as “credibly accused.”
This meshes with the conclusion of the Guidepost report that, for decades, SBC officials had been “singularly focused on avoiding liability for the SBC to the exclusion of other considerations.” Thus, Robertson’s view is simply more of the same. It is the continued prioritizing of institutional protection over the protection of kids and congregants.
It’s also fundamentally irresponsible. Liability risks are a part of operating a large institution, and responsible institutions work to manage those risks ethically. The Southern Baptist Convention is a tentacular, multi-billion-dollar organization — akin to a Fortune 500 company — and yet, SBC officials are trying to operate this multi-billion-dollar organization without taking on the inherent responsibilities that go along with it. They want the power of such a behemoth without the responsibility of it.
When new leaders express views like those of Philip Robertson, there is little reason to expect any meaningful reform for addressing sexual abuse within the Southern Baptist Convention.
So, in the words of The Who, we “won’t get fooled again.”
Source: “SBC leader offers little hope for change on addressing clergy sex abuse”
ANALYSIS Christa Brown, Baptist News Global, AUGUST 5, 2024 (Link to article on the Wayback Machine: https://web.archive.org/web/20240816130753/https://baptistnews.com/article/sbc-leader-offers-little-hope-for-change-on-addressing-clergy-sex-abuse/
Dee has previously written about Jonathan Elwing here but since her article was published former pastor Elwing has been charged with additional felony counts and more information concerning his crimes has been revealed. Here is a clip from a press conference by Sheriff Rick Wells of Manatee County, Florida.
Unsurprisingly, Elwing’s church was listed in the 9Marks church directory.
Personally, if I were searching for a church home the first thing I would do is check the 9Marks church search. Any church appearing on that list would immediately be scratched from my list of churches to visit. Why? For starters, 9Marks President, Mark Dever, remains a close friend of C.J. Mahaney and Sovereign Grace Churches. Second, 9Marks seems to attract heavy-handed authoritarian pastors who just love to exercise church discipline on their church members, all the while holding to the unwritten rule among 9Marx clergy that church discipline is for thee, but not for me!
Jonathan Elwing is an excellent case in point. He loves the 9Marx book on church discipline authored by Mark Dever’s lap-dog, Jonathan Leeman.
Here is an “X” exchange between fellow members of The Conservative Baptist Network, Timothy Pigg and Jonathan Elwing. What’s insane about this exchange is that Elwing was neck-deep in his sexual assault crimes against children at the time of writing his comments.
To Pigg’s credit, he immediately removed Elwing from the Conservative Baptist Network. Of course I believe any Christian leader would do the same, with the possible exception of Mark Dever. Why do I say that? I communicated with a former intern of Dever who served on staff at Capitol Hill Baptist Church. The man became an atheist and advised Dever of this. He was fired immediately and removed from the former intern list within a “matter of weeks.” Fast forward to the Anthony Moore scandal. I covered this story extensively. Moore was a pastor at the Fort Worth campus of the Village Church. He was fired because he took videos of his assistant pastor in the shower. Shortly after Moore was fired he was hired by his good friend, Thomas White, President of Cedarville University. When this news broke White had to fire his buddy. Moore was also a former intern of Mark Dever. I badgered Dever publicly for several months before Moore was finally removed from Dever’s former intern list. But I digress.
I posted information on Elwing being a member of The Conservative Baptist Network on my “X” account and received this response from Collin Hain. I don’t blame him for wanting to get the word out that the Network dropped him immediately. As you can see, I responded to him. I have never heard whether they took my advice, but I hope they did.
Here is a biblical quotation from “Jonathan the wolf” a little more than a year before the SBC world discovered that the Baptistic Calvinist was actually the great pretender.
Below is an excerpt from an article in Ministry Watch. Due to recent changes in Florida law, Jonathan Elwing could be put to death for his crimes against young children!
According to the Manatee County Sheriff’s Office, police initially charged the father of four with four counts of possessing child pornography for using cryptocurrency to buy explicit images of children from the dark web. Detectives began investigating Elwing after a crypto-currency company tipped them about the purchases.
Days later, police conducted a search warrant at Elwing’s home and the church where he pastored. On his cell phone, they found explicit images of him sexually battering a 2-year-old. The images included his face and made obvious the identity and age of the child, court records show.
Nearly a month later, police found enough material to charge Elwing with over 20 counts of possession of child pornography.
For five years, Elwing has been the senior pastor at Palm View First Baptist Church in Palmetto, Florida. Elwing resigned from Palm View shortly before his arrest.
Detectives found two hidden cameras in Elwing’s home and eight in the church office, whose building links with the Educational Harbor private Christian school, where his wife Krystal Elwing is a teacher.
Palm View FBC is affiliated with the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC), which has struggled to properly resolve issues that have arisen from a scathing 2019 report accusing the convention of mishandling sexual assault cases. Elwing has reportedly opposed SBC reforms against sexual abuse, including the recommendation by the SBC’s Abuse Reform Implementation Task Force (ARITF) to pay Guidepost Solutions to maintain a website of people credibly accused of sexual abuse in the SBC.
In a Facebook post from February 2023, Elwing said the church would not give “one dime” to Guidepost Solutions, adding that “this very well could be the straw that breaks the back of the SBC.”
Palm View FBC issued a public statement confirming Elwing’s resignation and the church’s cooperation with authorities during the investigation.
A grand jury indicted Elwing on July 10 for sexual battery of a child. He faces a minimum sentence of life without parole if convicted, but prosecutors could also press for the death penalty under a 2023 Florida law that allows for the ultimate sentence for sexual battery of a child under the age of 12. Juries in Florida need just eight of the 12 to agree to execution.
In April 2023, the Florida Legislature passed a bill expanding death penalty eligibility for those convicted for sexual battery of a child under 12, following Governor Ron DeSantis’ push for harsher penalties. A month later, Gov. DeSantis signed the bill, and it became effective on October 1, 2023, enabling the state of Florida to pursue a death sentence for adult convictions of sexual battery of a child under 12.
Here is the latest list of felony counts against Elwing:
Briefly, here is one more SBC pastor recently accused of sexually abusing children. The screenshot below is from Ministry Watch detailing the alleged crimes David Schneider.
As someone who writes about abuse in the Evangelical church world, the number of SBC pastors who are caught sexually abusing children seems to occur frequently. Is it a systemic problem? Perhaps not if you go by the strict definition of systemic which I listed at the beginning of this post, but the numbers are alarming and in spite of all the publicity do not seem to be abating.
This might be a bit off-topic for this blog for this topic, But I was wondering if anyone has looked into the effects the sexual abuse cases within the SBC and other evangelical churches are having on their insurance premiums?
My working assumption is that everyone at the SBC knows there is a systemic issue within the church, but as soon as they acknowledge it, they will be buried under lawsuits holding them responsible. Currently, The stock response is, “This is an isolated incident where only the abuser and his church are liable. So keep your hands off our money.”
Most of these churches are interested in sweeping these cases under the rug as quickly and quietly as possible, so they encourage the elders to pay as little as possible to make it go away.
I am curious if churches carry liability insurance against sexual abuse lawsuits and if the cost of that insurance is going up as the number of successful claims is going up.
dfarning(Reply & quote selected text) (Reply to this comment)
“WE THANK THEE, LOOOOOOOOOOORD, THAT WE ARE NOTHING LIKE THOSE FILTHY ROMISH PAPIST PRIESTS OVER THERE….”
Headless Unicorn Guy(Reply & quote selected text) (Reply to this comment)
It seems possible to me that whatever systemic problems there may be in SBC that contribute to or facilitate abuse of the weak by the powerful, these may not be unique to SBC or, more generally, to American forms of Christianity.
I think that misuse of power by the powerful is pretty pervasive in our society. The churches are one more context in which evil desires lead to evil behaviors and terrible consequences.
This is not to defend SBC or agree with the speakers in the conversation clips. The churches ought to be visibly better, visibly more virtuous, than the surrounding society. The Gospel is supposed to make people “new”. Is there no lamentation, among SBC leaders, over what is happening? Do they have helpful counsel to associated churches for how to screen new hires and how to detect hints of dangerous behavior among current hires?
Perhaps they will win the “battle” of protecting SBC entities from legal liability for misconduct by officers and employees of associated churches, but they may lose the “war” of the public credibility of those churches’ stewardship of the Gospel.
Samuel Conner(Reply & quote selected text) (Reply to this comment)
Samuel Conner,
Yup
Jeffrey Chalmers(Reply & quote selected text) (Reply to this comment)
Of course not.
“I GOT MINE,
I GOT MINE,
THE WORLD’S THE WAY IT’S MEANT TO BE!
I GOT MINE!
…
“I GOT MINE,
I GOT MINE,
I DON’T WANT A THING TO CHANGE
NOW THAT I GOT MINE!”
— Glenn Frye, “I Got Mine”
Headless Unicorn Guy(Reply & quote selected text) (Reply to this comment)
I am experiencing this as well. There has been a pretty consistent increase in the percentage of Americans identifying as “None” when asked about their religion. That increase has been just about .5% per year for fifty years.
The number of people who state that religion is the most important or one of the most important parts of their lives is around half of what it was 50 years ago.
While these churches claim they are saving America, at least in my part of the Midwest, they are just causing some people (and their donations) to migrate from local neighborhood churches (with local neighborhood interests) to larger, high-profile churches while pushing a consistent percentage of people away.
dfarning(Reply & quote selected text) (Reply to this comment)
“Liability risks are a part of operating a large institution, and responsible institutions work to manage those risks ethically. The Southern Baptist Convention is a tentacular, multi-billion-dollar organization — akin to a Fortune 500 company — and yet, SBC officials are trying to operate this multi-billion-dollar organization without taking on the inherent responsibilities that go along with it. They want the power of such a behemoth without the responsibility of it.”
Could this be the core of the institutional problem? SBC insiders don’t like when the SBC gets called a denomination. I’ve heard people claim the SBC really only exists a few days out of the year when the actual convention is in session. The SBC is an institution that doesn’t want to admit it’s an institution, because it experiences less scrutiny that way?
CMT(Reply & quote selected text) (Reply to this comment)
I agree but only in church do you find the abuse coupled with the master of the universe (not He-man) and it’s protectors ostensibly in his service.
Victims are gaslighted in his name, forgiveness is weaponized in his name, heck some will even claim the abuse is part of a divine plan.
No corporation or sports team can come close to ‘his’ will.
Jack(Reply & quote selected text) (Reply to this comment)
Just my own opinion here, so be forewarned this is the musing of an old grandma.
But here goes: The church is supposed to be focused on Jesus. Not the Jesus we like to make up, that looks the other way when we sin any sort of sin. The real Jesus. The one that isn’t afraid to call all sin just exactly that, sin. The Jesus that calls us to repent of our sins (repentance isn’t just being sorry for sinning. It includes turning away from sin.) And He calls us not to rely on our righteousness for salvation, but rather to rely on His righteousness put on our accounts.
There are far more sins than just sexual sin, so keep that in mind. But in the world we live in, sexual sin is the hot button issue. I have sat in churches that lauded people who got pregnant or got someone pregnant out of wedlock and refused abortion and yet at the same time would be happy to stone those engaging in same sex marriage. Why? All of them were sinning!
Hello–the same Jesus who yes, refused to stone the adulterous woman BUT ALSO told her to GO AND SIN NO MORE is the Jesus who defines sex outside of marriage as either fornication or adultery. Oops. The same Jesus Who in the red letters tells us marriage is why a MAN leaves his parents and marries his WIFE. Oops. The same Jesus who tells us that marriage was designed by God to be for a lifetime, allowing divorce ONLY because of the HARDNESS OF OUR HEARTS. That hardness is what leads to adultery and abandonment. OOPS.
The same Jesus who calls greed, lust, cruelty, being inhospitable, abusing others spiritually as well as physically, lying, stealing, not honoring our parents, speaking hate, and many more things as sin.
So here we sit: neck deep in whatever our favorite sin is, be it sexual or not, as long as it is socially acceptable, and then wonder how on earth people can be so evil as to abuse small children sexually, record it, and share it.
Rather like one pig in the mud hole wanting everyone to look at how dirty that pig over there is.
It won’t be solved by data bases, righteous anger (and it IS righteous!), shining the light on sin (and it needs to shine on it and bring it out in the open), or anything else we humans can do to fix it.
Our only hope is a true revival, where folks get saved and turn away from (rather than try to justify) their sin. Our only hope to fix any of this mess is a return to preaching the truth, and yep, that will include uncomfortable preaching on sin, on its results, its punishment, and the offer of salvation and cleansing from sin.
What you may think is a speck in your eye may be seen as a log by someone else. None of us are perfect. But it is a lie right out of the pit of hell that we are stuck in the cesspool of sin, with no way out. And another lie out of the pit of hell is that we get to define what is a cesspool and what isn’t. God gives the definition, not us. And He doesn’t give a hoot what is socially acceptable, or fashionable, or explainable by psychology.
In short, we need revival. Real revival. It is our only hope! And it is the only hope for the tiny victims of the abusers. It is the only hope for the most vulnerable. It is the only hope of preventing more victims.
linda(Reply & quote selected text) (Reply to this comment)
AKA “REJOICE! THE CHOCOLATE RATION OF TWENTY GRAMS HAS BEEN INCREASED TO TEN!”
Headless Unicorn Guy(Reply & quote selected text) (Reply to this comment)
He has become nothing more than The Ultimate CELEBRITY Endorsement for What I Wanna Do Anyway.
If not a Familiar Spirit, bound and weaponized by the mortal Sorcerer/Witch-Man to serve as an Enforcer.
Corporation/Sports Team doesn’t elevate everything to TRULY Cosmic Importance.
Headless Unicorn Guy(Reply & quote selected text) (Reply to this comment)
Those who claim that abuse is part of God’s plan really do follow a sick religion.
I wish for just once that God would come right out and say:
I made no such claim, you people are the ones that dreamed up this $hit.
Muff Potter(Reply & quote selected text) (Reply to this comment)
While a bit harsh for my taste, that has become the gist of it. It appears a fair number of other current generation of Christian leaders like to flip between “How dare doubt me because I speak and act on God’s behalf?” and “How dare you judge me for my words and actions because I am a frail human who god blesses!” Then, they just flip between the two depending on which situation is more convenient.
As long as they can successfully exploit that dichotomy, nothing will change.
dfarning(Reply & quote selected text) (Reply to this comment)
dfarning,
I have noticed the same with some political leaders…. One hand, the “big shot”, able to control all of the various aspects of their specific position ; but then, when under oath, they play the “dumb card”…. I do not know, or Ido not remember, etc..
Jeffrey Chalmers(Reply & quote selected text) (Reply to this comment)
I have repeatedly taken more than 10 items into the “10 items or less” line at the grocery store.
The patriarchs and kings had concubines and slave girls.
I don’t think all sins are the same level.
But there is law and the law does state what the age of consent is and even defines abuse in professional situations.
So god can hate me all he wants, society won’t send me to jail for my grocery store transgressions.
And the “one man, one woman” marriage dictate came from Greek and Roman law. Galilee was heavily Hellenized by the time of Jesus ministry.
This is why Solomon had 900 hundred concubines and Sarah could acceptably gift a slave girl to Abraham in the old testament.
Both are “biblical” – but which one is right? Maybe Jesus was trying to reign in the divorce lawyers in anticipation of the constitution. Hence the ban on divorce.
Theology…done easy.
Jack(Reply & quote selected text) (Reply to this comment)
The victims can tell us where sexual abuse is systemic. They are the evidence. It’s really that simple. They have the receipts.
Dr. Andrew Denney at UTC has the data, from a researcher’s POV. Assistant Professor of Criminality and Justice.
Recent Publications:
Denney, A.S., Torres, C.E., Oram, C., & Sutton, M. Crime at Places of Worship: A
Geospatial Analysis. Criminal Justice Studies.
Denney, A.S. (2022). Child sex abusers in Protestant Christian
churches: An offender typology. Journal of Qualitative Criminology & Criminal Justice.
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Attorney Jeff Anderson notably said about perverted priests on the prowl preying on Catholic children (while the Church moved these pedophile priests from parish to parish): Only when the Catholic Church org pays from their treasure ($$$), will they do something about the rampant predation of children by, or under the umbrella of, their org leaders.
Apparently, children are not treasured, money is, for the grand orgs fueled by $$$.
Time to abandon the folksy folklore about churches, with supposedly legendary leaders. A pedophile predator in priest or pastor costume, or protected by the same, is simply a pedophile predator using church orgs as their hunting ground while BFF hobnobbing and schmoozing among the religious elite, i.e. Beloved Dear Leaders Paul Pressler with Paige and Dorothy Patterson. More recently, the Beloved Robert Morris et al. These are simply Headliner examples. The list is long, their reach is vast.
In any case, as insurance companies pay out for the Hunting Ground churches with Legendary Pedophile Pastor or Priest Leaders and Pals, the insurance companies will not be drinking the Koolaid of folksy folklore with legendary leaders. In the world of insurance and nonprofit BUSINESSES, the “filthy lucre” of money rules. Reality.
Ava Aaronson(Reply & quote selected text) (Reply to this comment)
Yes, I am curious to see if there will be parallels between the catholic church’s acceptance of sexual abuse within its ranks and the growing visibility of the SBC acceptance of abuse within its ranks.
Both organizations control the conversation about mortality within their membership, so questioning the morality of leadership’s decisions or behaviors is unlikely to have any effect.
At least in my part of the Midwest, the abuse was just brushed off as rabble-rousing by enemies of the church until local churches started having to sell off parsonages and parish churches to pay settlements.
The situation was nearly identical to that of the Boy Scouts of America. The abuse was known and accepted as part of doing business. It was not until they were facing bankruptcy that anything changed.
Our pursuit of prestige, power, and money causes many humans to be remarkably malleable in their morality.
dfarning(Reply & quote selected text) (Reply to this comment)
Not really off-topic. This article was at The Roys Report last month, and directly related to the topic. It may be that capital interests come to the rescue, if church authorities won’t.
https://julieroys.com/bruxy-caveys-former-megachurch-meeting-house-pauses-ministry-insurer-ends-abuse-coverage/
Ted(Reply & quote selected text) (Reply to this comment)