James Robison & Robert Morris – 2 Peas in a Pod?

Editor’s Note 6/24/2024: Steve LeBlanc issued a retraction to his statement that he knew James Robison was present when Cindy Clemishire and her dad met with Pastor Olen Griffing. You can watch the video from Sunday, June 22 here. Wade Burleson did a good job assessing the impact of this retraction in one of the comments. I suggest readers check his comment out.


Justin Peters has published an excellent interview with Steve LeBlanc. Steve was a friend and colleague of Robert Morris, working with him at both Shady Grove Church and Gateway Church. Here is a link to the YouTube video. Watch it when you get a chance. It’s 68 minutes long.

This clip puts to flight the lie that nobody in Gateway leadership, and more specifically, James Robison was aware of the age of Cindy Clemishire.

So James Robison (apparently) knew that Morris had started abusing Cindy Clemishire when she was 12. Unsurprisingly, Robison was also involved in extra-marital sex. I came across this article from the New York Times, originally published in July 1990. If you do the math, Robison was 36 when his extra-marital sex came to light. The woman would have been in her late teens. I take this to mean anywhere from 17-19 years old. There is a strong possibility that Robison was having sex with a minor and it came to light in 1980, a mere two years before Morris’ sexual abuse of a minor!

More from the Charisma article:

Robison said that it was not just the defeat he saw in the lives of people he ministered to, but the defeat that he ex­perienced in his own life that led to a crisis point. He became so miserable that he contemplated suicide. He was a man out of control, a man tormented. It wasn’t just food that Robison had trouble controlling. He was plagued with unclean thoughts. “As I would preach, many times I would look at women eye-to-eye in the congregation. Demon spirits began to talk to me and, to my horror, I found I was unable to stop them. It got so bad that I have sat on platforms afraid to look up, knowing what I would see.”

“I couldn’t control my appetite,” he says. “I’m 6-foot-3 and I’ve never looked fat, but I gained so much weight I wouldn’t wear a three-piece suit for fear I’d take a deep breath and pop a button. It’s no laughing matter when you can’t control your craving for chocolate or ice cream.”
“I knew then something had to happen to give me mental relief. What I needed was deliverance—but I didn’t even know it was a possibility.”
He says his frustration was com­pounded because he was not experienc­ing the joy, peace and freedom that the New Testament says belongs to believers —and neither were many of his minister friends.
I kept listening to preachers talk about truth—and the truth setting you free—but I knew they weren’t free. I heard coarse jestings, filthy talk and jokes that would embarrass a sailor come out of preachers’ mouths.I would call Dudley Hall, my closest friend, at 3 a.m. and ask him, ‘Dudley, can you be free? Do you know anybody who’s free?’”
That night after the meeting, Robison invited Green back to his hotel room to share further. But after they had talked a while, Green looked over at him and began to cry. He said, “I’ve been listen­ing to you and praying for you for six years. I feel so sorry for you. I’ve cast demons out of prisoners, convicts, murderers, witches, drug addicts and Hell’s Angels, but I believe you’re the most demonized person I’ve ever seen. You’re so tormented I don’t know how you’ve kept your sanity.”
It wasn’t just food that Robison had trouble controlling. He was plagued with unclean thoughts.
“As I would preach, many times I would look at women eye-to-eye in the congregation. Demon spirits began to talk to me and, to my horror, I found I was unable to stop them. It got so bad that I have sat on platforms afraid to look up, knowing what I would see.”

In the video below Betty Robison talks of praying for her husband James. He seems to have lost his zeal. I would guess it had a lot to do with his cheating on his wife, although that is not mentioned.

These next two video clips seemed creepy to me. My thought is they are in very poor taste, but I think it comes from the mind of a sex-crazed man.



Comments

James Robison & Robert Morris – 2 Peas in a Pod? — 59 Comments

  1. CB,

    I called and left a message for James Robison about whether he knew her age (and other questions). I’ve not heard back. The struggle I have with his answer on this video, “I didn’t NOT know!” is two-fold:

    1. James issued a press release stating he hired Robert Morris “in the late 80s” and that after the sexual immorality was discovered, “Robert left full-time ministry from Shady Grove Church” for two years. James is not being truthful in that press statement. Newspaper articles show James hired Robert Morris in December 1981, one year before the abuse began, and during the abuse, Robert Morris was working as a James Robison Crusade associate evangelist.

    How could the boss not know the details of his associate evangelist’s immorality? By the way, I’m not saying he DID know her age; I’m just saying that I would think he SHOULD KNOW, AND (even more importantly) if he wasn’t being truthful about when he (James Robison) hired Robert, then why should we believe him on “I didn’t know the age of the victim?”

    CB, I know James SAID he didn’t know her age in the video, but he also SAID Robert Morris wasn’t working for him when all this happened, a false statement that has been demonstrably proven to be false.

    Even worse, shortly after Robert “stepped out of ministry” in 1987 because of his “sexual immorality,” he was once again traveling for James Robison Crusades very quickly. Now, get this: Robert went OVERSEAS (the Philippines), where “blind eyes are made to see, and deaf ears are opened” when over 500 Philipinos “came to faith in Christ” (that’s from a 1988 Louisiana newspaper ad about Robert). There was no two-year restoration process.

    If we are to believe Robert Morris in his book, there seems to have been “a one-month” removal from ministry. One month. Robert says it was to “deal with my pride.” Nothing about the crime of molesting a child. Without Al Gore having yet to invent the Internet in 1987 (LOL), it seems everybody involved with Robert Morris, people who loved him, sincerely hoped nobody in Oklahoma would find out what Robert Morris was doing overseas or in American schools and churches after his “one-month removal.”

    C.B. – I know you to be a man of integrity. Truth matters to you. I’m not saying James Robison DID know the girl’s age. Steve LeBlanc, a former Gateway staff member and current pastor of Sherman Bible Church, disagrees with me and adamantly says James did know the details.

    I’m waiting for confirmation. But I must admit, I’m having a hard time reconciling James’s deception on other issues as I hear him say on the video that he did not know the nature of Robert’s crime. As you know, even in 1987, there were mandatory reporting laws in Texas for ministers, and James Robison was a licensed minister from Texas.

    There’s every reason for James to say he didn’t know.

    2. I’ll keep this one short. The childhood of Cindy Clemishire was stolen. Even worse, in adulthood, some issues in her life – emotional, spiritual, psychological, and relational – crop up because a grown married man in gospel ministry, a husband with a son of his own, graphically, repeatedly, and horrifically stole Cindy’s sexual purity from age 12 to 17.

    There can be, will never be, any justification for what Robert Morris did. Many people knew of Robert’s immorality: Debbie (his wife), a woman who informed Cindy’s parents (a friend of Cindy’s family and now a licensed counselor to whom I’ve sent a private message about James Robison), Olin Griffing (Pastor of Shady Grove, James Robison, and more.

    Again, everyone who loves Robert Morris and knew in 1987 that Cindy was 12 when the abuse began, has every advantage in 2024 for saying THEY DID NOT KNOW. If they did know, and declare they did today, they would be confessing to helping Robert cover a crime.

    One would not expect ANYONE to admit in 2024 that they knew (look at the statement of the elders!) I expect nothing less.

    Jesus told His followers to be “wise as serpents and gentle as doves.”

    I am trying to be gentle in this whole mess, even though I want to strangle some people who abused Cindy. God’s grace helps me because Rachelle (my wife) and I know Cindy to be a strong, vibrant believer in Jesus who understands the power of forgiveness.

    But we, God’s people, should be wise as serpents. We TRUST the saints but VERIFY the stories. It’s that simple.

    Cindy agrees with me that the reason this entire sordid mess SHOULD BE PUBLIC is to make every perp who even THINKS about stealing the sexuality of a child STOP IN HIS (OR HER) TRACKS- because they remember what happened to Robert Morris.

    Thanks, C.B. Scott. Thank you for all you do in caring for others, for your love for foster children, and for your love for truth.

    James Robison has been a family friend for decades, working with my father at Fulness Magazine and Jack Taylor, Jim Hylton, and other great men of the Kingdom. But as I told James’ assistant, I just have a few questions for him to help gauge the truth-telling.

    Friendship takes a backseat to the truth when it comes to child abuse.

    I have NO CONFIRMATION YET that James Robison KNEW Robert Morris’ VICTIM was a minor. If that evidence comes forth from the testimony of two or three people who were there and know who knows, including the young woman who helped Cindy tell with her parents (now a licensed counselor), then James Robison should lose his ministry as well.

    “He who hopefully waits on Me will never be put to shame.” – Isaiah 49:23

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  2. C.B. – I just realized something. You’re saying, “James was not with the family” when the sexual predatory abuse was revealed to the parents. That’s stipulated. The issue wasn’t who was in the parent’s home when their world was crushed by hearing what their daughter had been through for five years. The issue is, “What did the people who love Robert (Debbie, Olin, James) and those over Robert in employment (James Robison and Olin?) HEAR from those people IN THAT HOME when the meeting was over? We’re questioning whether James Robison KNEW DETAILS due to people REVEALING THEM TO HIM. In 1987, James Robison was very high-profile and respected, but as the New York Times article of 1990 reported, he was struggling with his issues (that the family did not know about). Olin Griffing was a retired STATE TROOPER. There was the Internet. It was very difficult to follow up on Robert Morris’s accountability. A crushed and devasted family felt those two men (James and Olin) would do the right thing. As we see, someone didn’t, but now we hear, “We didn’t know the details.” We’ll see.

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  3. Well, given the clash of opposing statements from all these church leaders, some of them very prominent preachers, one thing is very clear … some are lying. At this point, it’s not clear who. Apparently, to be successful in mega-ministry, a bit of half-truth, mistruth, and bold-faced lies are necessary on occasion. But for us onlookers, the problem with deception is that we don’t know we are deceived because we are deceived.

    Balthasar Hubmaier, while under tremendous persecution in the early days of Protestantism, said “Truth is unkillable.” So we wait for truth to emerge to help us sort out these conflicting messages.

    IMO, the case is closed on Robert Morris, the goose is cooked, he’s up the creek without a paddle … but the jury is still out on James Robison.

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  4. Wade Burleson,

    Thank you Wade for taking a stand…
    Growing up in fundamentalist land, I endured countless sermons/retreats/revivals that focused way to much on “sexuality” and the lack thereof…. Including how “bad” we were for sexual desires… in fact the above video clips brings 40 to 50 years old memories into vivid focus…

    So, it makes my blood boil when it comes out that these clown not only are “sexually impure” but these clowns cover it up for each other…..
    AND my blood DOUBLE boils when I think what these clowns did AND CONTINUE to do to the abuse victims.
    At least one preacher, such as yourself, is equally disgusted…..
    The hypocrisy of these clowns is beyond measure.

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  5. Thank you Wade. I couldn’t finish reading what you wrote because I am weeping. I feel horrible for Cindy and for anyone else abused. I will finish reading it though when able.

    I however can regain my composure when I think about the deceivers protecting their image for their glory. God will not share His glory. The truth will come out. I believe some will humble themselves while others will continue to protect their image. Note: When I mention deceivers, I mean past involvement and current involvement. Please tell the truth. It is obvious there is enough documentation that will discredit any deception.

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  6. I don’t find it hard to believe that James Robison really got delivered of something…he obviously needed to. But these people should not be in leadership or “eldership.” First off, these young bucks become “pastor” far too young anyway. They clearly are not “elders” by any stretch of the imagination even if they are as pure as the clean driven snow. These guys are old now but they ascended to their roles far too young before they were tested. Scripture is clear that we lead by example of our way of life. Elders must have character and be spiritually and emotionally mature, and in our society they almost never are. Young men should take a back seat, and at most be helpers and get mentored in partnership with mature people in team settings. And I don’t mean the status quo of being a youth pastor under a senior pastor. Married young men should focus on their family and have to work a real job, not be supported in “full-time ministry.” Rabbis had to have a trade. Also we need to stop conflating ministry with clergy with leadership. People can serve or even teach the Bible without being “ordained” or put in charge of a Christian organization where they have access to victims and have a presumption of trust and spiritual authority. I’ve known ex addicts and ex-sex offenders who were part of churches but everyone around (and especially parents) knew exactly what those guys had done and served prison time for, and they were not allowed to interact with children, be in charge of anything or have a title. They were loved and didn’t re-offend, but they were also watched closely. As always with these things, the cover-ups are a huge part of the problem. If a person can’t get FBI clearance then they can’t be trusted with the power that pastors currently have. In fact maybe we need to have a similar rigorous security clearance process that is repeated every few years, and not just simple criminal background checks that show nothing because in the past these guys were rarely reported or prosecuted. Thanks for bringing attention to these things.

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  7. I remember watching life today every time it was on starting in the 90’s. I had so much respect for James at first, for many years actually. It wasn’t until he started using his program for political persuasion and who he ended up endorsing in 2016 did it hit me he was not who he claimed to be. Abusers will support other abusers, you can bet on it.

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  8. Jeffrey Chalmers: Growing up in fundamentalist land, I endured countless sermons/retreats/revivals that focused way to much on “sexuality” and the lack thereof…. Including how “bad” we were for sexual desires…

    Christians are more obsessed with Pelvic Issues than anyone on the Outside.
    Even total Nymphomaniacs don’t obsess with sex as much as the Christians.

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  9. This is moving pretty quickly, so I am losing track of major themes. I hope someone with more knowledge and personal experience with the people involved can keep things straight.

    On Friday June 21, 2024 James Robison released a statement on twitter. https://x.com/revjamesrobison/status/1804230345614660076 .

    It appears to be, ‘Ohh shucks. It is too bad this happened to whats her name. But my lawyers and PR firm tell me If I stick with my story, I can escape culpability.” The basic theme appears to be, “Betty and I are praying for everyone who’s been hurt by these terrible events.” But we are going to obstruct and obfuscate every attempt that Cindy, or anyone else, might make to understand how what happened was allowed to happen. IE. questions from former friends and associates are being referred to their law firm.

    That hardly seems Christian 🙁

    Then on Saturday, June 22, 2024 https://www.christianpost.com/ amplified James Robisons position in an article at https://www.christianpost.com/news/robert-morris-scandal-james-robison-refutes-claims.html

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  10. Church girl,

    FYI,

    Morris’s son James is senior pastor and has been on the board of elders for some time.
    Morris’s daughter-in-law Bridgett is executive pastor.
    Morris’s daughter Elaine Fisher was on the web site last week as senor or executive something (6/16).

    In 2025, they were planning on James Morris to take over the church.

    What other secrets are being hidden by the family?

    The family runs and controls the entire church. The church should be bulldozed.

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  11. Wade Burleson:

    But we, God’s people, should be wise as serpents. We TRUST the saints but VERIFY the stories.

    “TRUST BUT VERIFY” was a mythical slogan made popular with Reagan and Bush over Russia and Iraq’s weaponry. If you have to verify, it’s because you don’t trust. It’s no different than a wife going thru her husband’s pockets looking for phone numbers written on cocktail napkins. If you trust, you don’t go thru his pockets.

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  12. CB,

    The lies seem to be hidden in the wording they choose. By lumping two things together while only one was actually mentioned… Robinson appears, and it caught me at first, to be saying that she said he didn’t know her age. She said no such thing. She only said Robinson was not there. These men know words and they know how to manipulate. The truth will come out on this matter eventually.

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  13. Please Lord, reveal and redeem. If James Robison wants absolution, he should have Cindy’s attorney write a letter stating that didn’t know Cindy’s age at the time he found out about the sexual assault of Robert Morris. Not just that he wasn’t at that meeting. This seems very suspect to me.

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  14. bob smith: Morris’s son James is senior pastor and has been on the board of elders for some time.
    Morris’s daughter-in-law Bridgett is executive pastor.
    Morris’s daughter Elaine Fisher was on the web site last week as senor or executive something (6/16).

    They could teach the Saudi Rpyal Family or North Korea’s Kim Dynasty things about Nepotism.

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  15. Wade Burleson: Even worse, shortly after Robert “stepped out of ministry” in 1987 because of his “sexual immorality,” he was once again traveling for James Robison Crusades very quickly. Now, get this: Robert went OVERSEAS (the Philippines), where “blind eyes are made to see, and deaf ears are opened” when over 500 Philipinos “came to faith in Christ” (that’s from a 1988 Louisiana newspaper ad about Robert). There was no two-year restoration process.

    Is it possible that RM hid the Shady Grove “removal from ministry” from James Robison in 1988?

    Are you aware of more traveling ministry dates during those two years?

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  16. BZ,

    I’ll try to ask Olin Griffing that question. I don’t think Shady Grove could hide anything from James Robison because every newspaper that advertised Robert Morris speaking at an assembly or church revival (from February 1982 through 1969) lists James Robison Ministries as the organization sponsoring the event and Robert Morris as an evangelist for James Robison. It seems that James Robison hired Robert Morris in December 1981 as an associate evangelist (news articles confirm this), and James Robison used Robert Morris in his ministry to speak in schools, churches, and crusades. Thanks for asking, though.

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  17. huckleberrysfin: If you have to verify, it’s because you don’t trust. It’s no different than a wife going thru her husband’s pockets looking for phone numbers written on cocktail napkins. If you trust, you don’t go thru his pockets.

    And if a married couple doesn’t have a mutual all access “open wallet, open purse” policy between them—including passcodes for each others’ smartphones—then there’s no need to go looking.

    He can grab breath mints out of her purse, she can grab his wallet to get the spare car key.

    Happy life. 🙂

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  18. BZ: Is it possible that RM hid the Shady Grove “removal from ministry” from James Robison in 1988?

    Are you aware of more traveling ministry dates during those two years?

    Have you seen the Aug. ‘88 article posted at Watchkeep.org about the evangelist scheduled to speak at the October ‘88 revival in Mississippi? Definitely within the claimed two year span.

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  19. Daniel Lick: The lies seem to be hidden in the wording they choose. By lumping two things together while only one was actually mentioned… Robinson appears, and it caught me at first, to be saying that she said he didn’t know her age. She said no such thing. She only said Robinson was not there. These men know words and they know how to manipulate. The truth will come out on this matter eventually.

    I thought the exact same thing. Wording was carefully chosen. He lumps two things together, then presents proof of that the first is false leaving the impression that its all false.

    Oldest trick in the book.

    But then he emphatically states he did not know her age until he read the report a few days ago.

    Wade Burleson:

    I guess its still possible that Cindy’s father reported it to OG who didnt ask specific questions and / or didnt relay them to the elders?

    Do we know for certain that in 1987 Cindy told her father how old she was when it started? Or could that have been a repressed memory that surfaced later?

    There’s no shame if CC didn’t, as 16 year old *girl*, tell her *dad* the “whole truth”. She was still likely blaming herself at that time. What 16 year old girl relishes the thought of telling her DAD?

    Or if her dad didnt want to–at the time–divulge all the facts whether he had them or not? Again, no blame from me.

    These are sensitive subjects, long before the Lewinsky affair forced a sitting red faced president on camera under oath to spell out the details of his sexual indiscretions, sweeping away the last vestiges of public decency in American Life. (those are facts, not politics).

    Sensitive embarrassing subjects. The “Shhhh!!!” generation

    Im speculating—and playing the devils advocate— but to get to the truth, like in football practice, you need somebody to play defense.

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  20. Angela,

    Hi Angela, according to Titus 1-6 and 1 Tim 3:1-5, all of those elders back then that knew of at least an “affair” with a “young lady” should have disqualified RM from vocational ministry.
    It’s disturbing that as many times RM has talked about his infidelity in sermons at Gateway, not one of the zillion pastors and elders there came forward and said RM shouldn’t be a pastor or that he should step down out of ministry!
    It’s even more disturbing that emails between Tom Lane and Cindy show that he also knew and did nothing! Bad theology has created this mess and that seems to be the common thread in these morally failing pastors! Bad theology equals bad morals. God did not call him to start Gateway church or be a pastor because God would have had to go against his own word to qualify him. Because of RM, Gateway has never been a biblical church.

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  21. If Cindy’s attorney says James Robison wasn’t at the meeting and James says he wasn’t there, folks (reputable media sources who can’t afford to be sued) are giving him a lot of ammunition to file a lawsuit. Whatever he did or didn’t know is still unclear and may come to light, but this one statement needs to be put to rest.

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  22. Robert Herrera,

    And it appears Lane was “running interference” for RM the whole time.

    Lane probably told whichever admin handled the emails to the elders “any emails alleging immoral conduct by RM comes to me; the elders have designated me for that role” (whether they did or did not we likely will never know). As such, Tra is likely correct when he said he didn’t know the whole story; Lane hid it from everyone.

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  23. Gaslighting is a form of emotional abuse where one person’s psychological manipulation causes another person to question their reality. Gaslighters undermine the trust a person has in their reality, leading victims to doubt their memory, perception, and sanity. The expression, which derived from the title of the 1944 film GASLIGHT-Watch it.

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  24. Wow on the Robison clips. Let’s just blame women, shall we? Disgusting. This may be an unpopular opinion but I feel that the entire Gateway network needs to brought to its knees. It was conceived by a man who had committed evil and hadn’t truly repented (and by the way, even if he had repented, he had wrecked another person’s life), and so how can Gateway find itself now? Maybe the Lord will guide the church, or maybe the best course is to shut down. I think if Morris’ son takes over, very little will be accomplished because Morris, Sr. will still have influence, which is ridiculous because he should be behind bars.

    Last thought: Sexual violence isn’t just committed against girls and women. Boys, too, are victims. I was raped by my brother. Boys, too, can be victims. Let’s not forget that.

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  25. Wow on the Robison clips. Let’s just blame women, shall we? Disgusting. This may be an unpopular opinion but I feel that the entire Gateway network needs to brought to its knees. It was conceived by a man who had committed evil and hadn’t truly repented (and by the way, even if he had repented, he had wrecked another person’s life), and so how can Gateway find itself now? Maybe the Lord will guide the church, or maybe the best course is to shut down. I think if Morris’ son takes over, very little will be accomplished because Morris, Sr. will still have influence, which is ridiculous because he should be behind bars.

    Last thought: Sexual violence isn’t just committed against girls and women. Boys, too, are victims. I was raped by my brother. Boys, too, can be victims. Let’s not forget that.
    Church girl,

    Agree completely. And I think maybe the Gateway network should close up and liquidate.

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  26. Max: Folks that said they knew at the time now say they didn’t know … Robison didn’t know … Gateway elders didn’t know … Gateway members didn’t know … Morris’ dog didn’t know … etc. etc. SCREAM!!

    Robert Morris’ wife Debbie knew. She had the nerve to call Cindy up and tell her she forgave her! Why didn’t she speak up to the Elders? Why didn’t she inform Law Enforcement? She, and many others in that church made the decision to cover it up and continue to enjoy their comfortable lives instead of standing for truth and justice.

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  27. Mark R:
    Robert Herrera,

    And it appears Lane was “running interference” for RM the whole time.

    Lane probably told whichever admin handled the emails to the elders “any emails alleging immoral conduct by RM comes to me; the elders have designated me for that role” (whether they did or did not we likely will never know).As such, Tra is likely correct when he said he didn’t know the whole story; Lane hid it from everyone.

    Tom Lane was Robert Morris’s fixer. Pure and simple.

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  28. Max: Folks that said they knew at the time now say they didn’t know … Robison didn’t know … Gateway elders didn’t know … Gateway members didn’t know … Morris’ dog didn’t know … etc. etc.

    That is now The Party Line.
    And has Always Been.
    As of Today, Two Plus Two Has Always Equaled PURPLE, NOT FIVE!
    To remember anything else is SATANIC Thoughtcrime!

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  29. Wade Burleson:
    The issue is, “What did the people who love Robert (Debbie, Olin, James) and those over Robert in employment (James Robison and Olin?) HEAR from those people IN THAT HOME when the meeting was over? We’re questioning whether James Robison KNEW DETAILS due to people REVEALING THEM TO HIM. In 1987, James Robison was very high-profile and respected, but as the New York Times article of 1990 reported, he was struggling with his issues (that the family did not know about). Olin Griffing was a retired STATE TROOPER. There was the Internet. It was very difficult to follow up on Robert Morris’s accountability. A crushed and devasted family felt those two men (James and Olin) would do the right thing. As we see, someone didn’t, but now we hear, “We didn’t know the details.” We’ll see.

    This particular fact sticks out to me the most, “Olin Griffing was a retired STATE TROOPER.” Was there a “Duggar” form of response going on at James Robinson’s ministry?

    My other thought is based on my own experience, but not in Texas. In 1984, age sixteen, I was in a session with my therapist helping me learn to cope with my abusive upbringing, including sexual abuse. I asked if there was group therapy for boys. The response was no, it happens mostly to girls. WE ARE NOW JUST SETTING UP GROUP THERAPY FOR THEM. If the mental health profession was just implementing group therapy for the girls in some parts of the country, was the law enforcement mentality aka Olin Griffing as responsive?

    My other other thought, was Cindy’s parents under the impression that Olin Griffing knew the details and thought there wasn’t a need to call the police?

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  30. Brian: This particular fact sticks out to me the most, “Olin Griffing was a retired STATE TROOPER.” Was there a “Duggar” form of response going on at James Robinson’s ministry?

    My other thought is based on my own experience, but not in Texas. In 1984, age sixteen, I was in a session with my therapist helping me learn to cope with my abusive upbringing, including sexual abuse. I asked if there was group therapy for boys. The response was no, it happens mostly to girls. WE ARE NOW JUST SETTING UP GROUP THERAPY FOR THEM. If the mental health profession was just implementing group therapy for the girls in some parts of the country, was the law enforcement mentality aka Olin Griffing as responsive?

    My other other thought, was Cindy’s parents under the impression that Olin Griffing knew the details and thought there wasn’t a need to call the police?

    Why do you think these megachurch pastors (or any pastor), evangelical leaders, and ministries cozy up to Law Enforcement and politicians. What better way to any investigations, reports, etc. sandbagged and swept under the rug. And many of these wail about the so-called Deep State helping the other team…I smell projection.

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  31. James Robison spiritually restored as was a mentor for Robert Morris. The fact that he had his own sexual misconduct earlier would seem to indicate that did not look to close (or really care) at Morris’s sins. Of course, John Hagee was involved as a spiritual advisor for Robison in regards to Robeson’s sexual sins, affair, and clergy abuse. Hagee himself was defrocked by the AOG when he was a pastor for having an affair with a woman in his church. He then divorced his first wife, married the woman he had the affair with, and had 2 more children with her. He left his old church and started his own fiefdom known as Cornerstone Church. You may want to do a deep dive on John Hagee as well. This was back in 1975.

    https://www.sacurrent.com/sanantonio/the-dumbest-things-ever-blurted-out-by-san-antonio-pastor-john-hagee-of-cornerstone-church/Slideshow/27632113

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