“Life makes fools of all of us sooner or later. But keep your sense of humor and you’ll at least be able to take your humiliations with some measure of grace. In the end, you know, it’s our own expectations that crush us.” ― Skippy Dies
Blog news: Starting this week, my kitchen will be gutted and then put back together which will take at least 7 weeks. I will not have the ability to cook, etc. I’m trying to figure out how to do the holidays. I will try not to be grumpy.
: In this post, you will have access to the filed lawsuit. Also, be aware that it appears there are two lawsuits-one of which is pending.
For those of you who have been off the grid, here are a number of posts that I wrote following the fall of Falwell and his wife.
- Jerry Falwell Jr’s Alleged History With Other Racy Photos Along With the Pool Boy Episode and the Alleged Hiring of THAT Micheal Cohen to Make It Go Away
- Jerry Falwell Jr. Resigns From Liberty University. Was It the Reported Threesomes With Pool Boy That Finally Did It?
- From Pool Boy to Liberty University Band Student: Jerry Falwell’s Wife, Becki, Is Accused of Predatory Behavior. Also, LU States They Will Begin to Investigate.
- NY Post: Jerry Falwell Jr. allegedly got drunk and fell downstairs amid pool boy sex scandal
Here is a nice synopsis from Inside Edition
He should have disappeared with his $100 million and gotten some help for his multiple problems as alleged by numerous media groups all over the world. He attracted the attention of Politico which wrote a number of articles discussing Pool Boy, amongst other issues. Put ‘ Politico and Falwell’ into search and you can see all of the articles. Their most recent article was Falwell sues Liberty University, alleging defamation.
(Falwel is) alleging the university defamed him and did not properly investigate claims about his personal life before pushing him to resign as president over the summer.
…”Other than God and my family, there is nothing in the world I love more than Liberty University,” Falwell said in a statement. “While I have nothing but love and appreciation for the Liberty community, and I had hoped to avoid litigation, I must take the necessary steps to restore my reputation and hopefully help repair the damage to the Liberty University brand in the process.”
I’m beginning to think this is all about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Falwell is alleged to be worth $100 million and allegedly received a $10.5 million settlement with LU. However, it appears he wants more.
Falwell alleges Liberty failed to vet claims made by Giancarlo Granda, a former pool attendant in Miami who alleges he had a multiyear affair with Jerry and Becki Falwell. The lawsuit maintains that Becki had an affair with Granda “unbeknownst to Falwell,” and says that Granda tried to extort the Falwells, and was sponsored by the Lincoln Project, the anti-Trump PAC. And it says that Liberty is in breach of contract — which could entitle Falwell to a much bigger payout than Liberty has maintained he is owed after his departure.
…Granda responded with a statement denying any ties to the Lincoln Project.
… the Lincoln Project said it “has had nothing to do with the public finally learning about the true character of the Falwell family.”
Here is a copy of the lawsuit that Falwell has filed in the Circuit Court in Lynchburg.
Case filed by Jerry Falwell… by Jeff Williamson
Falwell has also threatened to sue the journalist, Brandon Ambrosino, a graduate of LUt, who wrote for Politico. This was reported by the News and Advance: Falwell threatens to sue journalist behind explosive report, demands retraction: “Legal team includes an attorney who represented Trump in Mueller.” probe.”:
Lawyers for Liberty University President Jerry Falwell Jr. have threatened in a cease-and-desist letter to sue the author of an explosive report alleging misconduct by Falwell, calling the journalist’s claims “false and defamatory.”
…Falwell has retained attorneys from the New York-based law firm Kasowitz, Benson & Torres, whose founding partner, Marc Kasowitz, served as a personal attorney for President Donald Trump until 2017. In a statement, Falwell said the firm is conducting a broad investigation into former Liberty officials and board members who may have spoken to or provided internal records to journalists.
It appears that this lawsuit is due to the information found in this Politico story which was written by a student who graduated from LU, Brandon Ambrosino: Someone’s Gotta Tell the Freakin’ Truth’: Jerry Falwell’s Aides Break Their Silence. Falwell alleges the following as reported by the News and Advance.
The magazine article, written by LU graduate Brandon Ambrosino, said it was based on interviews with more than two dozen “current and former high-ranking LU officials and close associates of Falwell’s.”
The article, which received widespread national attention, was published amid a cascade of media reports detailing free speech concerns at Liberty and business decisions Falwell has made during his tenure as university president.
…“These obviously defamatory claims are part of a pattern of disparagement you have directed at LU and Mr. Falwell,” Bowe wrote in the letter, which is dated Oct. 22. The letter concludes with a demand Ambrosino “immediately retract these false and defamatory statements,” adding that defamation action is likely.
Ambrosino confirmed in a Facebook post Wednesday he received the cease-and-desist letter, and told The News & Advance on Wednesday night, “I stand by my reporting.” Politico did not respond to requests for comment.
My opinion: Falwell should fade into the sunset on his yacht with his incredible wealth. In my opinion, he needs an intervention as does his wife, Becky. They then should go and work in a homeless shelter, cleaning bathrooms, sweeping floors, and serving food to those who are suffering from addictions and poverty.
Jerry Falwell Jr will continue to embarrass himself, his family, his former university, and everyone associated with his university. He should demonstrate humility and stop worrying about his reputation. He will not be able to buy that back by suing people. He appears to be a sad, messed up man who may have a drinking problem and his wife appears to be his enabler if all that is reported is true.
Jerry Falwell Jr- needs help but it seems like he will continue to humiliate himself instead. Defamation, my foot! He’s his own worst enemy.
It’s number 1
Perhaps LU Board of Trustees Member Jonathan Falwell will weigh in:
https://www.liberty.edu/trustees/
Shamelessness seems the fashion of the day.
Also confirms the suspicion that Jr, unlike Sr – whatever else you may think of him, and who doesn’t – was only ever in it for the money.
Junior ruined his own reputation. Smh. Bless his heart.
” Starting this week, my kitchen will be gutted and then put back together which will take at least 7 weeks. I will not have the ability to cook, etc. I’m trying to figure out how to do the holidays. I will try not to be grumpy.”
Looks like you will have a new kitchen by Christmas or a bit earlier if they stay on schedule. We had to deal with no kitchen while they replaced ours. Not fun.
I am sure it will be well worth it.
Can always get a toaster oven and microwave and have it somewhere.
I have been a Professor at an evil, secular humanist, state University for over 32 years. I have seen many U. presidents come and go, not just at my own Institutions. None of the Presidents that were “asked to leave”, left for anything as serious as Jr is not just “reported” to have done, but what I have seen with my own eyes, and listened to with my own ears. I might add that none of the Presidents that I have seen “asked to leave” got “going away packages” as large as Jr, and none sued.
So, here we go again, “Christian orgs” that do not have standards anywhere close to “evil, secular, humanist Universities”. As I posted before, many evil, secular humanist Universities have clear Policies that allow Boards of Trustees to remove Presidents, administrators, Professors, and staff that misbehave…
But, then, as we know, Christian orgs are more moral than us amoral, pagans… ( there are so many adjective that Preacher boys call us at the Big U…. I could go on and on)
I would love to see if Falwell Jr. is willing to testify under oath that he didn’t watch his wife have sex with pool boy. It is easy for Falwell to deny this when not under oath but will he make this claim or for that matter his wife when under oath where lying would be committing perjury.
Others have compared this to the James MacDonald situation where Falwell Jr. may not want to have made public information that Liberty University can request of Falwell just like Julie Roys did with MacDonald. Then again (and others have commented elsewhere) I am sure there is dirt to be exposed both about Falwell and Liberty University that neither want made public. This could be a ploy by Falwell to try and get even more dollars in a settlement from Liberty. After all Liberty University is more a family business than a Christian College.
Another thought is that Falwell’s actions appears to be classic narcissism. Falwell apparently can’t see all that he has contributed to his fall and wants to blame others.
Just when you thought this Falwell situation couldn’t get any worse you see Falwell try and sue Liberty. Just appalling.
[heavy sigh]…
“In my opinion, he needs an intervention as does his wife, Becky.” (Dee)
Well, it’s obvious that there has been no divine intervention in Junior’s life … no evidence of Christ operating through him. Falwell’s bad-boy behavior has been a longtime issue at LU – professors and students have been concerned about his leadership for years. As for Becky … yes, she needs help. More money won’t fix their psychological/spiritual problems.
(Dee, thanks for this piece … I needed to get my mind off the Peeing Pastor)
“He should demonstrate humility and stop worrying about his reputation.” (Dee)
Falwell Junior is not a victim. LU is his victim.
My prediction is that they will settle out of court with a substantial payout to Mr. Falwell. The Board and others at Liberty are not going to want to have made public the breath and depth of their enablement and perhaps personal participation in the financial and moral shenanigans at Liberty. Jr. knows where all the bodies are buried.
To quote from Hamlet, “Something is rotten in the state of Denmark …“
I would advise Pastor Jonathan to keep his hands to the plow and not look back.
Junior has forced that to come out if the lawsuit ends up in court. Perhaps that’s what he wants … to not be the only bad-boy to have his reputation ruined.
Look for Board members to resign before finger-pointing time heats up.
The OP mentions something called a Mueller probe. Shouldn’t that be securely zipped?
Defamation of Falwell’s character was pretty well established when Falwell posted that photo to Instagram.
Yep, narcissism of the classic, grandiose variety. Their behavior is the most predictable thing on the planet.
I suppose I could save Jerry Falwell, Jr. thousands of dollars in legal fees by pointing out that if he wants to know who destroyed his reputation, he should look in the mirror. Sadly, it appears he isn’t interested in taking my advice.
Yet it’s due time to like … “the disciples shook the dust of a town from their feet, it would show their separation from those who rejected their Messiah (Who is The Way, The Truth, The Life).”
… like the disciples, in our “Christian Evangelical World” shake the dust of the Not-the-Way, Lies, & Death … off our sandals and move on from this joke of a “Christian Evangelical World”, and know that at least the so-called “evil”, secular world does not lie about who they are and what they are doing. Those who are not a Faith Community and do not claim to be, are a healthier environment than these cosplay xians.
Ted,
That is exactly why I posted that picture.
This whole situation makes you wonder is maybe Falwell not attracted to women? Did he push his wife towards other men and then throw her under the bus for following his suggestions?
Steve240,
As I keep saying, it is a floating, burning, dumpster fire that just will not go out… And, the real victims are the current students, and alumni….. and the parents paying the tuition…. and students with all the student loans..
but, you can bet that is not the concern of Jr, or the Board of Trustees…
Oh, it’ll go out alright, of that I’m certain.
The real question is after all is said and done, how many parents will still shell out their hard earned dinero to send their kids to a college that already has a rep of being way over priced?
Muff Potter,
Absolutely! Just thankful my adult children consciously made the decision to attend state colleges at affordable rates. And they are all believers in Jesus alone for salvation as well as decent human beings.
Attending a so called christian college does not make one’s soul “christian.”
Nor does home schooling.
Just take a covid break on the whole holidays thing. Order a pizza or something and call it good. Just say…it’s 2020. Do a gift hiatus.
And that’s not the only one he has posted that has enraged students and alumni. He’s posted numerous pictures of him drinking with the football players. The football players are under the Liberty Way (handbook), even if Junior is not.
I don’t think dee mentioned that he is also threatening to sue an action group, claiming they staged all the press to get him fired. Like everyone else, I think his actions are responsible for the press, and I think he’s done a terrible job of hiding his actions so of course it was going to end up in the media. I mean, some of them, he posted on social media himself!
I hope Virginia throws out some of these cases.
I actually want to celebrate the holidays more this year because it’s been such a dismal year. We won’t be celebrating with other people, but I’m going to decorate it up and watch a lot of Christmas movies.
But I sympathize with dee. We are contemplating redoing a large part of the upstairs, including the bathroom, and it’s going to be a drag during the process. I actually do most of my cooking in the Instant Pot and rice maker now, but it’d be hard to lose the fridge.
That’s why they call him Junior! Falwell is done – he just hasn’t quit yet.
Marc Kasowitz is also representing Jared and Ivanka in their lawsuit against The Lincoln Project re BillboardGate. He appears to be creating a cottage industry of defending the character of those who have none.
This crystallizes the profoundly un-Christian nature and parasitic vindictiveness of these types. In the apparent death throes of their regime, rather than plan for a better future, or more selfishly a viable career transition, these maliciously sociopathic minions intend to commit more skulduggery simply to continue more hierarchical malevolent skulduggery. Evil.
defending the character of those who have none
Dee,
“Starting this week, my kitchen will be gutted and then put back together which will take at least 7 weeks. I will not have the ability to cook, etc. I’m trying to figure out how to do the holidays. I will try not to be grumpy.”
I can empathize! We are in the middle of a master bath remodel of 4-6 weeks. Sleeping in guest room.
We are currently taking a week during the remodel to visit family and 88 year old father. The day before flight my father had to be tested for Covid. Day after our arrival the test came back positive, so I won’t even be able to see him except from yards away, outside, with masks on. Good news is that he has had no breathing problems, is on day 7 of symptoms and starting to feel better! So, hoping Covid will pass without hospitalization.
We carry on the best we can, making adjustments.
Robert Harrington today wrote a piece in the Palmer Report that relates to what we are dealing with in the church (and these leaders all share the same lawyers). Here is an abridged adaptation to the church:
“Writer Jeffrey Archer spent time in prison, noting two kinds of wrongdoers: ordinary persons who made a single, stupid mistake, and the career wrongdoer.
“There are also two kinds of career offenders. The kind that know they are doing wrong and have a sense of embarrassed moral regret about it, and the kind that are entitled and angry — even murderously so — when a prospective victim or whistle-blower thwarts them, becoming remorselessly vindictive when anyone exposes him, the worst kind of offender. They think they’re entitled to their activities and we should praise them and endure while they grift, harm, & destroy the rest of us.
“This is darkness: unlimited ego, undiluted envy, and absolute belief — without cognitive dissonance — in the right to do unto others what he would self-righteously condemn if the same things were done unto him. This is the life of the malignant narcissist who also happens to be an offender who also happens to be a Christian leader.
“Not all narcissists are offenders. Some use the law as a kind of self-righteous cudgel with which to beat other people, to prove that they are morally superior to them.
“Unfortunately, malignant narcissists who are also offenders often do the same thing. The difference is in the hypocrisy. Malignant narcissists who also take advantage of others see no inconsistency with believing that they should be allowed to do so with impunity while at the same time accusing innocent people of breaking those very same rules.
“Such people would be easy to spot and safely isolate were it not for the single most dangerously problematic thing about the rule-breaking narcissist. They are often surrounded by a network of codependents and sycophants, and that network can be as large as a crowd of Evangelicals and as powerful as a Christian institution. That network can be a large part of our faith communities.
“It is out of the depth of the well of this human depravity that crawl leaders who can say with a straight face that they are followers of Jesus and leaders of others.
“This type of leader surrounds himself with a large collection of feral devotees supporting sexual violation & misuse of resources, while his crimes continue to be laundered and sanitized by these water-carrying, codependent, glassy-eyed supporters. The lies they tell in defense of their Dear Leader are readily swallowed whole, untasted and lizard-like, by Dear Leader supporters from one end of the church to the other.
“We live in a world of celebrity cultism, fifteen minutes of fame so potentially toxic that Andy Warhol would barely recognize it today. Not only are celebrities worshiped, they are imitated — including their flaws. With leaders like this, composed of nothing but flaws, this presents a very big problem. Not only do the toxic base of supporters worship these leaders, many of them also imitate them.
“While these leaders continue to embrace vice and the generic ugliness that continues to tear the church apart, Jesus works to make his message of integrity and morality known. Because of the damage these leaders do to the credibility of Jesus’ message and the know-ability of the simple truth, that message sometimes gets lost. Even so, there are still Christians who believe in living with integrity and the power of truth. But that morality does us no good if we don’t stand up, speak out, and above all, refuse to $upport this evil among us.”
NOTE: It would be helpful to differentiate between one-off offender-leaders who 180, and career offending leaders who embrace their evil lifestyle while shielding themselves from scrutiny.
Sometimes I wish we had a chat room or a Discord where we could have a book club, because there is so much to unpack from your post. I think this is right on the money for who Junior is, and I thought this about him back when he was in his 20, before he was ever in charge of LU.
I knew long ago that Junior was not a decent sort of person. I knew that he would cause harm to students at LU. And I knew he would still end up in charge because of his name and family, but not because of his character or concern for education.
And sadly, we’ve seen this type of person over and over in evangelicalism. One of the worst being James Macdonald, who I still think should be arrested for a number of things. These people are all over in evangelical church world, and it’s one of the biggest reasons why I left it. And it’s just disliking people by the news, because I know some of these people personally and vouch for their awful personalities. Falwell, Junior is EXACTLY what the news makes him out to be. Paige Patterson is WORSE who the news makes him out to be.
Ava Aaronson,
“NOTE: It would be helpful to differentiate between one-off offender-leaders who 180, and career offending leaders who embrace their evil lifestyle while shielding themselves from scrutiny.”
++++++++++++
i’m sure that’s not a bad idea.
there are too many ‘leaders’, though. kind of like there are too many slugs & snails in my garden.
i guess more to the point, i have no need of even one slug / snail.
Sadly Until the money stops I doubt there will be change. That may be all that Liberty’s Board understands. Sad to see Falwell Jr. start to drive into the ground what his dad started.
it’s amazing — i’m learning how to compartmentalize my vision and shut certain parts of it off.
like, i’m actually able to see the post above and read the words while at the same ‘unsee’ that nauseating photograph of jerry and that girl.
well, it’s a sheer necessity, isn’t it. nausea is really inconvenient.
To someone like Junior, no amount of money can ever be enough.
“MORE! MORE! MORE! MINE! MINE! MINE!”
You mean Rich White Trash cosplaying Poor White Trash?
It’s all a little bit DARVO.
But who have Plenty of MONEY he can relieve them of.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0kcet4aPpQ
“YOU DISHONOR ME!”
“No. You have Dishonored yourself.”
— Game of Thrones
“If I go down, I’m Taking All of You With ME!”
Like the KKK Grand Dragon of “The Great Klan State of Indiana” in the Roaring Twenties who went down in a sex scandal (forcible rape ending in fatality) just before the Governor Election he was a shoo-in to win.
As he was on trial, he threatened the authorities with all these records of their dealings with him which he would release if convicted. This being a century before Epstein, he got convicted and made good on his threat, releasing EVERYTHING. A good chunk of the state legislature and judiciary (plus the Mayor of Indianapolis) ended up in prison for corrution. In the Roaring Twenties, the Era of Teapot Dome.
Never underestimate the power of Scorched Earth.
Still, there’s something worse than “in it for the money”:
IN IT FOR THE EGO-BOO.
Greed for Money has some sort of topping out point.
Egomania has NO top-out.
My degree is from a state college.
Cal Poly Pomona, 1978.
Michael Sheperd on Twitter suggested that the lawsuits could be a way to keep the “independent investigation” from going public or at least stall them. I dunno if I agree, but it could be a factor. I think he’s the type of guy who thinks he can do no wrong, but everyone can do him wrong if he is not getting his way.
I do think this makes more sense in terms of his argument that Liberty ruined his reputation. We all know he’s ruined his own reputation, but if he’s mad they are doing an investigation, that would make Liberty more of a target of his anger.
Headless Unicorn Guy,
i don’t know…. i haven’t gotten past gratuitous & entitled nauseating body parts yet.
I can’t post what I would say about discovery, because LANGUAGE. Except that really, really, really, Jerry Jr. is going to wish he never signed on for this when he gets that first discovery request.
Ava Aaronson,
Wow….
elastigirl,
…but certainly colleges & universities require leaders.
Sure ya’ don’t mean Devo?
The “Wow” factor, as Harrington wrote (adapted for Evangelicals):
“They are surrounded by a network of codependents and sycophants, and that network can be as large as a crowd of Evangelicals and as powerful as a Christian institution. That network can be a large part of our faith communities.
“It is out of the depth of the well of this human depravity that crawl leaders who can say with a straight face that they are followers of Jesus and leaders of others.”
Ultimate “Wow” factor will be Eternity, come the Day, when Jesus says to Dear Leaders & $ycophants alike: “Depart, I never knew you.”
Isn’t that a fatal disease of canids?
Isn’t that commonly called “SPOILED RICH KID”?
And/Or Utterly Selfish Psychopath?
Remmeber JMac of HBC?
Making an example of Julie Roys on advice from Mancow’s DUI lawyer until he found out what “Discovery” meant?
“WHO’S PEDALING A TRICYCLE AROUND THE LOOP WITH A CIRCUS MIDGET BALANCING ATOP YOUR HEAD NOW, REVEREND SUPER-APOSTLE?”
“ARE WE NOT MEN?
WE ARE DEVO!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRguZr0xCOc
I am still “processing” this whole situation.. and I am really having a hard time
“getting my hands” around what is going on…. the old catch phrase, “Truth is stranger than fiction” sure applies here..
It is as if “Jr” is trying to gaslighting all of us?
He’d have to actually think about other people to do that…
New Calvinism in a nutshell. The Driscollites come to mind – these bad-boys all looked and sounded alike!
Thank God that narcissism makes people so very stupid. We have watched others do the same thing. It never ends well for any of them…
Ava Aaronson,
Great quote. 2,000 years and the religious authorities are still jealous of the real Jesus. They still steal widows houses without blinking an eye. Many of these people are worse than Judas. Judas could not live with who he really was when he saw it. These people have no conscience whatsoever…
“as if”??? “trying”???
“Gaslighting is a form of emotional abuse that’s seen in abusive relationships. It’s the act of manipulating a person by forcing them to question their thoughts, memories, and the events occurring around them. A victim of gaslighting can be pushed so far that they question their own sanity.” – Healthline
Not “as if”, not “trying”, but actively doing exactly that.
The poolboy extortion & sex flings were not that … it was mentoring a young lad. Etc.
“But the truth might affect my friendship with the pastor,”
– from “Derry Girls” on Netflix, S1 E3
– sitcom set in Northern Ireland during The Troubles (’90’s)
The problem, isn’t it? The truth might interfere w/our relationship w/”power” – temporary “power” in the church; not God. The truth is our relationship with God. Choose today whom you shall follow. Bling or God.
Why in the world would anyone want to restore that sort of reputation?! His character wasn’t defamed, it was exposed.
Walk in the Light & have fellowship with one another.
“I’m beginning to think this is all about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Falwell is alleged to be worth $100 million and allegedly received a $10.5 million settlement with LU. However, it appears he wants more.”
Cold-blooded grifter(s). Parasites. Sucking the livelihood out of the faith community. Non-profit with donors – donors who in no way give unto the least of the least, widows and orphans. There will come a day …
Indeed! Leaders of Christian institutions should be walking in the Light. Jerry Falwell Jr. – long before the situation which brought him down – wasn’t walking that way at LU. Administrators, professors and students who knew the real Junior would not say they enjoyed Christian fellowship with him.
“If we say that we have fellowship with Him and yet walk in the darkness of sin, we lie and do not practice the truth” (1 John 1:5-7)
Ava Aaronson,
Yup… While we need to avoid “politics” on TWW, the “disconnect” between holding the “party line”, and actual Personal character attributes that both the NT, and OT, say are vital to healthy faith is so large I wonder where everything is headed.
While I do not disagree with you on emphasis on dollars, the enablement of “Jr” to run Liberty U the way he did, is more of an indictment of the “system” than Jr. I guess, as an educator myself, this violation of the sacred duty to educate the next generation so upsets me I am having trouble even expressing it. And when I say violation of a sacred duty, I mean on many, many, different levels. I could go on and on about this, but in reality, I would just be repeating all the “issues” that have already been brought up…
Karma and her sister Comeuppance are on assignment, they’re working on that day as we speak…
Junior is but one sad product of a Christian Industrial Complex gone awry. Unspiritual Boards of Christian institutions (there because they are big donors, rather than big with the Spirit) support bad-boy leaders as long as they can bring in the dough. They are Yes-Men who will hear “NO!” on Judgment Day.
From the TWW marquee:
It’s sad when $100 million isn’t enough.
It’s never enough.
I want more…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VsZr5KGNGM
Ah, come on. He doesn’t like partying on someone else’s boat. He needs more to buy his own yacht.
It is indeed a sacred duty. Whenever I’ve had the privilege to visit a classroom, or teach a lesson, or even coach a young adult writing a resume, it feels holy and joyous. There’s nothing like seeing a young person’s face light up when they grasp something new—especially their potential to take a crucial next step.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/11/01/jerry-falwell-liberty-university-becki-self-dealing-sex-430207
“Keeping his grip…”
That’s why those who indoctrinate youth with error (e.g., New Calvinism) will be judged more harshly.
Whew! Politico did their homework! Junior would be wise to just go away now.
Ava Aaronson,
Wow….. The Politico just piles on more “stuff” that we have been posting about….. Again, I am almost speechless with/respect to the corruption…
“Meanwhile, Falwell experienced so little oversight that he regularly used the university’s private jet for personal travel, often to Florida; kept five of his immediate family members on the payroll, including his 31-year-old son Trey at a salary of $234,310; sold a university-owned home to Trey; extended a university-backed loan to a family friend; rented university property on favorable terms to his former personal trainer; and used the university’s employees for renovations on his home, for which he repaid $175,000, among many instances when Liberty’s resources benefited the Falwells and their allies.”
ishy,
As I outlined in my OP several weeks ago, Conflict of Interest rules at all the respectable, secular heathen Universities that I looked at, some of which I posted, have specific rules preventing all of this and Jr would have been bounced. BUT, LU has “carve outs” in the rules for Jr and his cronies…
Just think of all the donor AND tuition money AND Fed Gov’t pell grants AND Loans that has somehow worked its way into the “family” accounts!!
Yup, real followers of Christ, this crew…. But then , I am part of the liberal establishment that is out to get evangelicals…. oh, I was also recently on a NIH review committee that is related to COVID.. so, I guess I am part of “deep state conspiracy”, so you should ignore anything I say…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKMNPQ35OUc
$100 MILLION?
Looks like Junior finally topped Kenneth Copeland!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKMNPQ35OUc
In Screwtape Proposes a Toast, Screwtape gloats about how they only need to corrupt ONE Celebrity for “Our Father Below” and they get ALL the supporters/fans for free.
Although corporate aircraft access is an exotic privilege, not everyone abuses it. I even worked with someone who thought he could book the company helicopter for company business, and who was reprimanded for doing so.
Ava Aaronson,
If Becki and “Jr” really did walk the campus discussing the sexual desirability/conquest of students they would come across ( the game that they are accused of playing), that really does rank up there with various “examples” in “ The Screwtape Letter”! There own “sexual playground”! Given the pictures I have seen of “Jr” in the weight room with co-eds in various positions, I do have to wonder….
Predatory
The New Calvinists would call that total depravity.
There have been reports that Copeland has a net worth between $750 million – $1 billion. If so, Junior’s treasury pales in comparison. The Christian Industrial Complex takes good care of its celebrities.
This is really disturbing. I’m so disgusted that I haven’t been able to respond to it. It shows just how little dignity they assign to other human beings.
Oh, and I notice the victim stories are remarkably similar, but you know what? There is a sexual harassment and coercion policy in the employee handbook. So, Mr. Falwell, Jr, you are a liar, aren’t you? You and your wife have flagrantly broken handbook rules.
https://www.liberty.edu/title-ix/wp-content/uploads/sites/126/2020/08/Liberty-University-Discrimination-Harassment-and-Sexual-Misconduct-Policy-published_081420.pdf
“Yet again you will see even greater repulsive acts which they are committing.” (Ezekiel 8)
“Morals are for Men, not… GODS!”
— Second “Old Testament” Star Trek pilot, “Where No Man Has Gone Before”
Think I slipped a zero there.
Copeland still remains the World’s Richest Televangelist.
(Even YouTube atheists like Telltale describe Copeland’s manic facial expressions as “Demonic”.)
You expect different from a Cougar and a Cougar-Cuck?
Roman Paterfamilias (family line Patriarch) has Absolute Sexual Rights over all his Animate Property.
Want? Take. Simple.
WANT?
TAKE.
SIMPLE.
The trustees like being sued for defamation. It’s a distraction. He gets his 20 to 50 million, the celebrity celebrity lawyers get their 20 to 50 million, the trustees get to keep their seats on the board of trustees. That’s win-win-win.
Students are too harassed to think whether there is even such a thing as trustees. (But if they did their homework, they would learn something.)
Let the Game of Thrones begin –
Daggers, Poison, and Red Weddings.
Headless Unicorn Guy,
It will be quite a show… given “public” LU is, since it is, self proclaimed, “leading evangelical institution of higher ed”, it will be pretty hard to keep this power struggle from becoming public……
Saw they’re putting together a 50th anniversary alumni directory:
https://www.liberty.edu/alumni/pci-and-liberty-university/
I’m guessing they’re glad it didn’t go to publication quite yet with a forward by Jr.
Here’s some old song lyrics that go well with the pic up top…
You walked into the party
Like you were walking on to a yacht
Your hat strategically dipped below one eye
Your scarf, it was apricot
You had one eye in the mirror
As you watched yourself Gavotte
And all the girls dreamed that they’d be your partner
They’d be your partner, and…
Doesn’t this institution have a law school? Aren’t some of the students legal scholars?
Muff Potter,
… your so vain….
Jeffrey Chalmers,
…you probably think this song is about you …
Yeah, they’ve sent me 6 postcards about it. I keep throwing them away.
… Don’t you? … Don’t you? …
Max,
If you read the lawsuit that Jr filed, he really does think everything is about him… I really like how he brings in the “Lincoln project” and how the anti-evangelicals and anti-45’s are after him! So I guess we all have such a elaborate conspiracy to get Becki to admit SHE was playing around with pool boy, and that all the photos of “Jr” were “doctored”, and that he sounded drunk on the radio interview.. Wow.. We really have power, don’t we!!!
As I have said multiple times, all the Conflict of Interest stuff would get him booted at a “respectable, secular, heathen” University.
Would that more Christians were part of a “deep state” … where deep calls to deep (Psalm 42). The American church is in trouble because church folks are swimming in shallow water in far too many places.
Actually, evangelicals have been after him in the blogosphere and elsewhere. He has trampled the precious name of Christ at LU, his fame has brought shame to the institution.
Junior, “you have made us a byword among the nations; the peoples shake their heads at us.” (Psalm 44:14)
It does say something about being able to exclude information, I wonder how many people know about that and are taking them up on it, especially in the current environment
It’s doubly sad because his father was a man of integrity, one who kept his pants on, and one who put the needs of his organization ahead of his own.
Does this mean I am in alignment with Falwell Sr.’s views?
No, it does not.
Integrity is a human virtue, completely independent of race, creed, and politics.
Max,
Groups are attacking “Jr”… after he does STUPID/Depraved things!! But then, who am I to “judge” things, I am from a secular humanist institution!! According to young earth creationist, for which Liberty U ascribes, I am “severely compromised”..
Goodness! Where will the pugs stay during the renovation if the kitchen table is gone? 🙂
Junior did exactly what I thought he would do: he’s doubling-down for more money and blaming everyone but himself! I really can’t see how the university could have ruined his ‘reputation’ any better than HE did!!! What a chump.
Everytime one of these moral failures come up in the Christian Industrial Complex, I always think “It shouldn’t be too much to ask a Christian leader to keep their pants on.” Imposters, they are … counterfeit bills in a stack of the genuine. The Body of Christ has been too trusting of leaders who ‘call’ themselves believers – they need to be tested before handing the reins over to them … I’m afraid many of these celebrities wouldn’t make the cut, not walking the talk.
I’m an old guy earth creationist. 🙂
If the Body of Christ in the LU family had effectively rebuked Junior for stupid & depraved behavior long ago, LU wouldn’t be in the pickle it’s in. It’s OK to correct a Christian leader, to hold them accountable before God, to remove them when necessary (regardless of their last name).
That’s true, but I work in marketing and I haven’t seen any guarantees they won’t use it for anything else. Though they do already have my address.
You might not be aware that Jerry Falwell Sr actively worked to prohibit school integration in the 1950s and founded a segregation academy. The desegregation struggle was particularly heinous in Virginia, where whole schools and even a school district were closed to prevent the mixing of races in the classroom. Private “segregation academies” admitted only white students… and they cost money.
Meanwhile everyone in Virginia continued to pay property taxes, regardless of skin color and regardless of whether their school was open. If you are curious, you can search for “massive resistance virginia.”
Falwell Senior might have been an avuncular guy who kept his pants on, but I dislike his notions of integrity.
I think that some of the leaders it get exposed are definitely imposters on the other hand I think that some started out sincere but due to success their ego got the best of them sadly.
Side question: A person, baptized an Baptist (non Southern), were thinking about looking at the LCMS, is “once saved always saved” a doctrine of LCMS?
When their egos got the best of them, they became imposters … they didn’t finish the race well. “The last shall be first and the first last.”
“I’m going to Hell, and I’m taking all of you with me”
Tragic.
If Falwell is wrong (and the stories are true), he’s doing immeasurable damage to the cause of Christ, no matter which branch of Christianity you follow.
If Falwell is true (and he truly is being defamed), the Trustees are then doing the immeasurable damage.
Either way, we all lose.
Junior, “You make us a byword among the nations, a laughingstock among the peoples.” (Psalms 44:14)
Mark R,
Given just the pictures of Jr, and the reports of all the Conflict of Interest, some which are just plan facts ( all his family members on the payroll, all of the “deals” with family members and LU, etc), both Jr, LU, and fundamentalism/evangelicalism has lost…
What should be on the front of Junior’s T-shirt or the back of his jacket:
“I JUST DON’T CARE. DO YOU?”
In Yiddish, this is called “a Shanda fur die Goyim”.
I kept my pants on and zipped all my life, but then I’m just some Omega Cuck instead of a True Manly Alpha Male of GAWD like Junior.
“THERE IS NO ‘YOU’,
THERE IS ONLY ME!
THERE IS NO ‘YOU’,
THERE IS ONLY ME!
THERE IS NO f’IN ‘YOU’,
THERE IS ONLY MEEEEEE!”
— Nine Inch Nails
(Remind you of any other Celebrities in the news these days?)
i.e. Dealing the “PERSECUTION!!!!!” Card off the bottom of the deck.
On behalf of all women who have ever ridden in an elevator, worked in an office, shopped in a small store, registered for an independent study course, visited the doctor or dentist, gone on a first date, or shared a taxi, THANK YOU.
(And I disagree with the labels you supplied, which come from the worst people in America.)
Hell, I dunno.
Muff’s been sprinkled by a Jesuit, hand laved by a Lutheran pastor, an’ even dunked in the Pacific by Papa Chuck hisself, an’ he still ain’t saved!
Do you know of a single example of when this was done with a supposed Christian leader? The only example I can think of is James MacDonald being rebuked long after he was exposed or at least he was declared not fit for ministry. Church discipline from what I have seen is only applied to regular members and not leaders.
If anyone has examples otherwise I would like them.
Falwell should have been rebuked but sadly sinful leaders are tolerated.
There are multiple examples of Christian leaders being “rebuked” by removal from their pulpits (Hybels, Driscoll, MacDonald, etc.) … but only after their assorted misbehaving reached public status. I can’t think of any reports of elder boards effectively dealing with these bad-boys along the way. “Touch not mine anointed” is too overworked … pastor and pew are both subject to correction and reproof … sin is never covered by anointing. We need more Nathans to point fingers in the face of Davids.
Secular Analogy: A private or closed corporation where the owner likes office politics to be the norm.
https://www.getreligion.org/getreligion/2020/11/2/like-father-unlike-son-epic-politico-investigation-includes-family-drama-along-with-and-sex?utm_source=GetReligion&utm_campaign=9589764917-RSS+EMAIL+CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_782cfe9a54-9589764917-240923301
Like father, unlike son: Epic Politico investigation includes family drama, along with $$$ and sex
Ava Aaronson,
Interesting. I expect it’s beginning to embarrass them.
That was my point. Even when these leaders are forced to step down the leader is rarely rebuked in the presence of all as Paul wrote should be done. They are usually pretty quiet.
If we had elder boards bold enough to do that, we might just stop some of these bad-boys. Charlatans and narcissists wouldn’t like being paraded before congregations to be rebuked. Where is Paul when you need him?!
“When God has drawn a line of distinction, we should not attempt to cross that line.” (Jerry Falwell Sr.)
Galatians is quite clear … in Christ, there are no distinctions of race, class or gender. There is no line in the sand in God’s Kingdom, nor room for discrimination.
“SEGREGATION NOW, SEGREGATION FO’EVAH!!!'”
— George C Wallace, Governor of Alabama during the end of Jim Crow
Performing as a “vent figure” for the Truly Reformed Pastor/Ventriloquist.
Friend,
Though you might not have agreed if you saw me in the early 1980s. First date at 26 to my first (and only) girlfriend, did some dumb things that could have gotten me labeled a low-key stalker if done todsy – out of sheer CLUELESSNESS. I had NO actual experience after what happened in High School Hell and this was the first (and last) female who acted like she actually wanted to be around me! A six-foot-one svelte lioness from the inland deserts of Barstow with the softest, sweetest voice! And NO idea how to go about this!
Headless Unicorn Guy,
That’s painful. What matters to me is what you have become, though. You continued to learn and grow, to develop interests and skills, and to increase your understanding of yourself and the world.
Unfortunately some people don’t grow, and some behave worse over time. Fortunately a lot of TWW folks take on the hard problems and ambiguities. This gives me hope for the future.