Dee Will Be Traveling in Great Britain and Ireland Until Mid-June

Hi all

I will soon be leaving for a lengthy trip. My nephew is getting married in a 13th century church outside of London. My husband and I will be attending the festivities and then taking a crazy fast tour of England, Scotland and Ireland.

I will try to meet up with a few people and will write them all notes today. That includes Nick Bulbeck, MJT and RM. If anyone else would like to catch up with me, please let me know ASAP, and I will send you a note.

In my absence, Deb will bravely attempt to carry on with all the things that are percolating. She is particularly looking forward to covering issues surrounding the coming SBC gathering in the second week of June. Given the current state of things in the convention, this meeting promises to be a humdinger!

TWW pro tip: Watch for the leaders and celebrities in the SBC, who continue to be supporters of CJ Mahaney, make all sorts of statement about why they are *against abuse* and how God is heaping His wrath on them for not standing up against abuse. (It’s the latest *thing.*) They know that Paige Patterson is only the tip of the iceberg and more revelations of the mistreatment of abused men, women and children, will be coming which will indict both sides of the Calvinist/non-Calvinist divide.

I plan to post articles from Michelle Van Loon and Julia Dahl. These are women you should get to know. I am not sure if I will have time to check in during the trip but may try to do so to give reports of meeting up with TWW stalwarts!

My son will be caring for the pugs and my mother during this time. My thoughts and prayers will be with you all.

Lang may yer lum reek (Think Spock!)
Dee

 

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Dee Will Be Traveling in Great Britain and Ireland Until Mid-June — 54 Comments

  1. I’m just 50 miles outside of London Dee, if you’re heading towards Hampshire! I hope you have a lovely lovely time here & in Ireland.

  2. Enjoy every moment and soak in the sights, sounds, smells and scenery! Will be looking forward to a lengthy trip report with photos!

    Homesick Heather

  3. “Watch for the leaders and celebrities in the SBC, who continue to be supporters of CJ Mahaney, make all sorts of statement about why they are *against abuse* and how God is heaping His wrath on them for not standing up against abuse. (It’s the latest *thing.*)”

    That and racial reconciliation and restorative justice. All of which lets you look like you’re current, relevant, and caring, whether you do anything of substance or not (as well as the chance of getting one’s foot in the door for more sacrificially-giving churchgoers that already exist and can be coopted/replanted without actually having to have new believers as the fruit of one’s fellow worker labors). Politicians have been doing the caring buzzword routine for years regardless of results, so there’s that.

  4. Incidentally, I’ll bring my MacBook Air along and see whether I can persuade Dee to log in to WordPress on it. We can then post some stuff using BlogQueen superpowers.

    Nothing could possibly go wrong with this.

    #DraculaInChargeOfBloodBank

  5. Beakerj:
    I’m just 50 miles outside of London Dee, if you’re heading towards Hampshire! I hope you have a lovely lovely time here & in Ireland.

    I won’t ask you to give away furryboots in Hampshire, but my late grandmother used to live in Walkford, near the coast at HighCliffe. Favourite haunts, other than “the beach” generally, were Wilverley Plain in the New Forest, and Hengistbury Head.

    Gran moved up to the midlands, nearer us, some 30 years ago. Happy days nonetheless…

  6. Incidentally, I am strongly opposed to being unspiritual.

    Now, everyone feck off – I’m away to get beer.

  7. We just got back from Ireland in April. When we got on the plane to come home my wife said, ” We will be back.”
    Ireland is just magical.

    The day we returned, as we walked in the door, bags in hand, the phone rings. It’s my son and daughter in law. They are having their ” Chinese ” wedding in October. ( They had a civil marriage service) Soooooo, we will be going to Kunming instead of Europe again this Fall.

  8. “Watch for the leaders and celebrities in the SBC, who continue to be supporters of CJ Mahaney, make all sorts of statement about why they are *against abuse* and how God is heaping His wrath on them for not standing up against abuse. (It’s the latest *thing.*)” (Dee)

    Yep, the New Calvinists are taking advantage of recent Patterson, Pressler, and Page scandals to appear to take the high road on behalf of women. But, they too have been driving on a low road of oppression of female believers, masked as the “beauty of complementarity.” Anything they offer at the SBC-Dallas gathering will be a smoke screen to obscure their own sins in this regard. If God has been filling a cup of wrath for Southern Baptists, there are plenty of reasons to pour it out in Dallas.

  9. “God is heaping His wrath on them”

    It’s been said that Paige Patterson is a lightning rod for controversy. Well, if he speaks at the SBC-Dallas meeting, you might not want to sit close to the stage.

  10. “this meeting promises to be a humdinger!”

    I’ve thought the past few annual conferences were going to be humdingers! But, the conference leaders had a way of steering the attendees away from stuff they needed to deal with (e.g., Calvinization of the largest non-Calvinist denomination in America, dirty old men in leadership, women being treated awful, etc.). Church messengers will probably just lament about the death of the denomination in hallway discussions, go back to the convention floor to hold hands and sing Kumbaya, and return to cities across America without taking an ax to the root of the tree in Dallas. Patterson will return to his hacienda in Fort Worth. Al Mohler will laugh all the way back to Louisville. God will probably miss the meeting altogether.

  11. Max: God will probably miss the meeting altogether.

    God recommends we not throw pearls to swine. He has a way of denying His Presence where He is not welcome.

  12. dee: Max
    Yes- I noticed Nick’s way of saying it.

    Nick Bulbeck,

    Enbruh.

    I worked for a company which has an office in Edinburgh. When visiting staff there over the years, I never could get them to pronounce it right (e.g., Pittsburgh).

  13. jyjames: He has a way of denying His Presence where He is not welcome.

    Many religious leaders get all puffed up thinking that God is involved in their work, that they never notice He is not hanging around. Ichabod.

  14. “Watch for the leaders and celebrities in the SBC…” it sounds like a Hollywood award show…

  15. Max: they never notice He is not hanging around.

    Go with God, it’s said, except in this case, they go without God as He doesn’t show up if the going is not love.

    God is love (even tough love – and the tough love part in the #ChurchToo movement is disenfranchisement of women-hating).

  16. Max (and others),

    “Enbruh” is a little stylised, I must admit. It’s more like ed’n-bruh. In day-to-day conversation myself, I pronounce it “edin-berg”, but this is just autistic humour. The one thing (generic)you mustn’t call it is Ed in burrow.

  17. Nick Bulbeck
    Hey, I grew up in Lymington so near to all of those lovely places. Highcliffe beach is my favourite beach, as well as the castle being amazing. Coincidentally I came the other way to your Gran, as I was born in Birmingham.

    I live about 50 miles away from there now, in another national park. Such hardship.

  18. dee,

    Sadly it is nowhere near me – I didn’t want to promise to come to you as I am silly busy at work, & not always that good at travelling. But I hope you have a fantastic time with Nick & the others & know that if I could have gotten to see you I would have.

  19. Nick,

    We’re looking forward to a full report from Roger Bombast on the meeting with Dee. 🙂

  20. Beakerj,

    Probably because there was a swift arrest and imprisonment of a reporter on an abuse trial and a ban on UK press reporting on the arrest and imprisonment!

  21. JDV: Politicians have been doing the caring buzzword routine for years regardless of results, so there’s that.

    To the point that Concern(TM), Compassion(TM), and Caring(TM) have become the signs of a Sociopath.

  22. John:
    Beakerj,

    Probably because there was a swift arrest and imprisonment of a reporter on an abuse trial and a ban on UK press reporting on the arrest and imprisonment!

    Official Secrets Act?

  23. And now for something completely different:

    Deb, Dee, GBTC, remember Eagle?
    His blog tends to focus more on church corruption in general and Culture War Jihadis where TW tends to focus more on the Neo-Calvinists. His blog tends to take on more “political subjects” as the Culture Warrior types are going Political in a big way. (And Eagle’s location and job description would put him in more political circles than TWW’s.) Maybe you could re-list his blog and refer commenters people to it for a more political bent than you have here at TWW? I remember you used to list his blog when he was starting out.

    (Used the word “political” more often in this comment than I have in years. Enough to start to sound like Soviet-era Russian media: Political… Political… Political…)

  24. John: Probably because there was a swift arrest and imprisonment of a reporter on an abuse trial and a ban on UK press reporting on the arrest and imprisonment!

    Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear, John – I’m afraid you’ve been well and truly suckered by somebody’s tweeting there. And that’s the best I can read into your comment.

    Wartburgers interested in the case can read about it in (for instance) The Independent here.

  25. Dee, have a wonderful and safe time in the UK! I look forward to seeing any photos that you might post of British fans of TWW!

  26. John,

    You’re talking about Tommy Robinson? I hope you can hear me laughing from here.

    Co-incidentally I am, I think, the only Wartburger to be actually currently working professionally with child sexual exploitation in England, such as that described in the article, so don’t think for a second I’m not educated on this.

    TR & those like him wouldn’t defend a vulnerable child if it fell at their feet in real life, they & their friends just want to use these issues to back up their nationalism. People are dealing with these issues & lessons have been learned, & are being learned. Vulnerable children & young people here are still more at risk from white perpetrators & the 2 active CSE cases I’ve been involved in were ones in which white guys – very much along the same social/political lines as TR – were the perpetrators, though I just rang in an attempted ‘first contact’ an Asian gent made to some young girls in the street right in front of me the other day. It wasn’t his race that was a problem, it was his intentions.