Comments for The Wartburg Watch http://thewartburgwatch.com Dissecting Christian trends. Posting Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Friday Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:06:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 Comment on What is Spiritual Abuse? by Doug Pittman http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/07/26/what-is-spiritual-abuse/#comment-6979 Doug Pittman Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:06:26 +0000 http://thewartburgwatch.com/?p=2560#comment-6979 I could care less if they know what I say. That is why I sign my name to everything I post.... Need my phone number, just ask I could care less if they know what I say. That is why I sign my name to everything I post….

Need my phone number, just ask

]]> Comment on Toxic Faith: Experiencing Healing from Painful Spiritual Abuse by Doug Pittman http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/07/29/toxic-faith-experiencing-healing-from-painful-spiritual-abuse/#comment-6972 Doug Pittman Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:30:20 +0000 http://thewartburgwatch.com/?p=2632#comment-6972 For those abused both spiritually and physically you now have "The Internet, the Great Equalizer"................. Use it and Expose them !!!! Expose them all!!! For those abused both spiritually and physically you now have

“The Internet, the Great Equalizer”……………..

Use it and Expose them !!!! Expose them all!!!

]]> Comment on Toxic Faith: Experiencing Healing from Painful Spiritual Abuse by Deb http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/07/29/toxic-faith-experiencing-healing-from-painful-spiritual-abuse/#comment-6969 Deb Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:58:20 +0000 http://thewartburgwatch.com/?p=2632#comment-6969 God bless you for helping those who are being spiritually abused. They usually suffer in silence. Jesus wants us to reach out to them, and I pray they can escape the grips of their abusers. I also pray for God to convict hearts. God bless you for helping those who are being spiritually abused. They usually suffer in silence. Jesus wants us to reach out to them, and I pray they can escape the grips of their abusers. I also pray for God to convict hearts.

]]> Comment on Toxic Faith: Experiencing Healing from Painful Spiritual Abuse by Me http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/07/29/toxic-faith-experiencing-healing-from-painful-spiritual-abuse/#comment-6956 Me Fri, 30 Jul 2010 02:15:49 +0000 http://thewartburgwatch.com/?p=2632#comment-6956 When I was in grad school, I friend and I worked hard to help those (many) who were being abused (or had been abused) by those in spiritual authority. They were former members of well known and highly respected parachurch ministries, and members of highly authoritarian sects. I don't know how much we were able to help, but at least they saw that we believed in them and were hurting by how much they had been hurt. Spiritual abuse happens at many levels, unfortunately. When I was in grad school, I friend and I worked hard to help those (many) who were being abused (or had been abused) by those in spiritual authority. They were former members of well known and highly respected parachurch ministries, and members of highly authoritarian sects. I don’t know how much we were able to help, but at least they saw that we believed in them and were hurting by how much they had been hurt.
Spiritual abuse happens at many levels, unfortunately.

]]> Comment on Perhaps There Is an SBC President Who Cares What the “Little Guy” Thinks by Michael http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/07/20/perhaps-there-is-an-sbc-president-who-cares-what-the-%e2%80%9clittle-guy%e2%80%9d-thinks/#comment-6952 Michael Fri, 30 Jul 2010 01:49:26 +0000 http://thewartburgwatch.com/?p=2465#comment-6952 State law typically allows any member to view the accounting records of the church. That means source documents, like credit card statements, etc., as long as the purpose is reasonable. We found that out in the Two Rivers case, where the courts ruled in favor of the members' rights to see credit cards statements, etc. Seeing the pastor's total compensation should be a slam dunk, if one is gutsy enough. Look at the state law related to nonprofits. State law typically allows any member to view the accounting records of the church. That means source documents, like credit card statements, etc., as long as the purpose is reasonable. We found that out in the Two Rivers case, where the courts ruled in favor of the members’ rights to see credit cards statements, etc. Seeing the pastor’s total compensation should be a slam dunk, if one is gutsy enough. Look at the state law related to nonprofits.

]]> Comment on Complementarian or Egalitarian: Are You So Sure? by Michael http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/07/19/complementarian-or-egalitarian-are-you-so-sure/#comment-6950 Michael Fri, 30 Jul 2010 01:36:53 +0000 http://thewartburgwatch.com/?p=2425#comment-6950 Dee, Also, and I'm not trying to be mean, honestly, but I was reflecting back on my debate with Lydia and it occured to me to ask you to consider looking into and writing on hyper-ANTI-authoritarianism. If there's one extreme, there's bound to be the other extreme. Dee,

Also, and I’m not trying to be mean, honestly, but I was reflecting back on my debate with Lydia and it occured to me to ask you to consider looking into and writing on hyper-ANTI-authoritarianism. If there’s one extreme, there’s bound to be the other extreme.

]]> Comment on Perhaps There Is an SBC President Who Cares What the “Little Guy” Thinks by Lydia http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/07/20/perhaps-there-is-an-sbc-president-who-cares-what-the-%e2%80%9clittle-guy%e2%80%9d-thinks/#comment-6949 Lydia Fri, 30 Jul 2010 01:09:33 +0000 http://thewartburgwatch.com/?p=2465#comment-6949 I thought it was sun bathing instead of going to the building called Church. :o) I thought it was sun bathing instead of going to the building called Church. :o )

]]> Comment on Perhaps There Is an SBC President Who Cares What the “Little Guy” Thinks by dee http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/07/20/perhaps-there-is-an-sbc-president-who-cares-what-the-%e2%80%9clittle-guy%e2%80%9d-thinks/#comment-6946 dee Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:35:30 +0000 http://thewartburgwatch.com/?p=2465#comment-6946 TW Glad I made you laugh. Listen, the only way I have heard "laying out" used is in regards to funerals. You know, "They sure laid Herbert out real fine". TW
Glad I made you laugh. Listen, the only way I have heard “laying out” used is in regards to funerals. You know, “They sure laid Herbert out real fine”.

]]> Comment on Toxic Faith: Experiencing Healing from Painful Spiritual Abuse by Deb http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/07/29/toxic-faith-experiencing-healing-from-painful-spiritual-abuse/#comment-6944 Deb Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:06:23 +0000 http://thewartburgwatch.com/?p=2632#comment-6944 Lydia, Dee and I have read the Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse, and Dee wrote a series on this book last year. I highly recommend Jeff VanVonderen's book and our posts on his excellent book. Just check under "Categories". Lydia,

Dee and I have read the Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse, and Dee wrote a series on this book last year. I highly recommend Jeff VanVonderen’s book and our posts on his excellent book. Just check under “Categories”.

]]> Comment on Perhaps There Is an SBC President Who Cares What the “Little Guy” Thinks by TrinityWatcher http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/07/20/perhaps-there-is-an-sbc-president-who-cares-what-the-%e2%80%9clittle-guy%e2%80%9d-thinks/#comment-6943 TrinityWatcher Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:03:49 +0000 http://thewartburgwatch.com/?p=2465#comment-6943 Ha ha ha, that's a joke, right? Chad repent? That made me laugh out loud, literally. =) No, Chad only admits he's wrong when he's trying to prove he is a greater sinner than us (as mentioned in another post on TWW). And Chad himself has also mentioned this very subject - that "laying out" of church is a sin. (I put laying out in quotes because I think that's a funny way to put it. =) He even said a few weeks ago that never having been on a "mission trip" is a sin. Funny, the verb tense in the Great Commission is not "GO" but "as you are GOING". I tell people about Jesus and what He's done for me all the time, as I am GOING. Should I really pay to go on a "mission trip" when there are lost people dying around me every day? Ha ha ha, that’s a joke, right? Chad repent? That made me laugh out loud, literally. =)

No, Chad only admits he’s wrong when he’s trying to prove he is a greater sinner than us (as mentioned in another post on TWW). And Chad himself has also mentioned this very subject – that “laying out” of church is a sin. (I put laying out in quotes because I think that’s a funny way to put it. =)

He even said a few weeks ago that never having been on a “mission trip” is a sin. Funny, the verb tense in the Great Commission is not “GO” but “as you are GOING”. I tell people about Jesus and what He’s done for me all the time, as I am GOING. Should I really pay to go on a “mission trip” when there are lost people dying around me every day?

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