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Ed Young-Blinded By the Light, A Beautiful “Bed In” and Mark Driscoll’s Interviewer

dee — Sat, 14 Jan 2012 21:01:12 +0000

This is a rare weekend update. Sun's Corona-NASA Ed Young Jr's Bed-In Ends in Failure? Ed and Lisa Young, according to some sources, had to stop their bed-in early last evening due to serious "ocular blindness" reportedly caused by the sun and the television cameras. Why does the phrase "blind guides, blind fools" come to mind? Mark Driscoll's Interviewer Answers Driscoll Today, I was called arrogant and holier than thou for apologizig to the British Christians for the pitiful words that Driscoll spoke. Said commenter said I should have posted Driscoll's response. I did so he didn't read very carefully. It was called A Blog Post for the Brits. The link is in Friday's post. Here is the response given by the reporter, Justin Brierly who Driscoll denigrated in his poorly worded "contextual" explanation to the British Christians. As to my apology, my response was predicated on the lack of response to Driscoll's ridiculous comments throughout the years. The silence amongst the Calvinistas is deafening. In fact, all of these men who continue to feature Driscoll should apologize as well. A Truly Beautiful "Bed-In To make up for the silliness of Driscoll and Young, I have decided Continue reading →

Written by: dee on Sat, Jan 14 2012.

Categories: Ed Young Jr., Mark Driscoll

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Mark Driscoll “Puts Down” British Christians While Ed Young “Beds Down” In Dallas

dee — Sat, 14 Jan 2012 03:53:24 +0000

"When you invite a middle-aged moralist to address you, I suppose I must conclude…that you have a taste for middle-aged moralizing." – CS Lewis I am about to say something that will cause angst among those Calvinistas who read this blog. (We know they do). There is no practical difference between Ed Young Jr and Mark Driscoll. Ah, the outcry…”.But Mark Driscoll is an educated Calvinist, and, as such, is far better qualified to preach theology than Ed Young who has mentioned in the past that doctrine just confuses people!” And I say, “So what!” I have this philosophy about theology. Unless theology results in a positive, practical application for Christian living, it is just a bunch of facts that benefit no one. As I look at the lives of these two men, I see two guys who climb all over themselves to be noticed, and not in a good way. They both write treatises on sex which tend to miff off people, they both adhere to a hyper-authoritarian pastorate, and they both come off arrogant, vulgar, rude, egocentric and condescending to large numbers of Continue reading →

Written by: dee on Fri, Jan 13 2012.

Categories: Ed Young Jr., Mark Driscoll

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Pastors with Sexpertise

deb — Fri, 13 Jan 2012 04:57:25 +0000

“That if gold rust, what shall iron do? For if a priest be foul, in whom we trust, No wonder is a lewd man to rust.” Geoffrey Chaucer Have you noticed the growing trend of "sexperts" in the pulpit? How in the world have Christian couples managed to achieve intimacy in their marriages over the years without the "sexpertise" (sorry – couldn't resist!) of two high-profile couples – Mark and Grace Driscoll and Ed and Lisa Young? In case you missed all the hype leading up to the release of these salacious books, they are now available. Maybe the Driscolls and the Youngs have wagered a bet to see who can sell the most books. The countdown is on for Ed and Lisa Young to go "up on the roof" of Fellowship Church and jump in bed for a full 24 hours! They have concocted a publicity stunt that is sure to draw lots of attention — TV interviews, Facebook updates, Tweets, Skype sessions, and live streaming. Ed had made it patently clear that this is NOT a publicity stunt, and Lisa confirmed that every penny from the book sales will go to Fellowship Church. Here they are promoting their Continue reading →

Written by: deb on Thu, Jan 12 2012.

Categories: Acts 29, Ed Young Jr., Mark Driscoll, Wade Burleson

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All Ed Young Jr Is Saying Is “Give Me the Cash!”

dee — Thu, 12 Jan 2012 02:31:09 +0000

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt. -Mark Twain Ed and Lisa Young-FBC JaxWatchdog (Yes, Ed is gesturing towards his crotch according to FBC Jax) Imagine this. You are in the final approach to DFW airport and the landing gear is down. Just before wheels touchdown, you fly over Fellowship Church in Grapevine (directly in the landing pattern). Surrounded by spotlights and media is a huge bed. In the bed are Ed and Lisa Young holding a 24-hour vigil, pontificating about how much good Christians need sex. (My guess is that all pilots will request that particular approach to DFW on Friday). Reformers, take special note: The Sex Gospel is born! Dee is a former member of Ed’s church You think I am joking? Oh no, I never need to make things up about Ed Young Jr. His life is a running parody that never seems to end. You see, I was a member of Fellowship Church for a short time back in the 90s when it was called the Fellowship of Las Colinas. Ed wanted to move the church, build a castle worthy of God and Continue reading →

Written by: dee on Wed, Jan 11 2012.

Categories: Ed Young Jr., Southern Baptist Convention

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FALSE HUMILITY, TRUE HYPOCRISY: A REVIEW OF C.J. MAHANEY’S BOOK HUMILITY, True Greatness

dee — Sat, 09 Jul 2011 17:25:11 +0000

Categories: Abusive church tactics, Al Mohler, Authoritarian leadership, Book Reviews, C.J. Mahaney, Calvinism/Calvinista, Ed Young Jr., Education and the church, Shepherding movement, Sovereign Grace Ministries

Review of CJ Mahaney's book on Humility, which he is not!

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When Everyday Pastors Tell “Whoppers” Like Ergun Caner and Ed Young Jr

dee — Fri, 01 Jul 2011 21:09:01 +0000

"Men stumble over the truth from time to time, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing happened." Winston Churchill Hubble Telescope in 1998 Introducing a New Service: Tracking Urban Legends in the Pulpit Years ago, I heard Ed Young Jr tell a moving story of how he witnessed to a clerk in a tie shop. He shared with his audience "his" clever way to share the Gospel. After the service, in the “shake Ed’s hand” line, I heard the man in front of me tell Ed that he liked the way Ed told that story better than the way Bill Hybels told it. Ed quickly moved him on. I ran after this man, who would become a good family friend, and he told me that the story was one that Bill Hybels frequently told, right down to the tie shop. He also said that Bill Hybels, through the Willowcreek Association, provided sermons for use in other churches. I felt deceived. From that time forward, I listened for any use of this “technique” in church. Most readers know the sad story of the lies of Ergun Caner. Continue reading →

Written by: dee on Fri, Jul 01 2011.

Categories: Ed Young Jr., Ergun Caner, Theology

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When Pastoral Care Means Taking Care of the Pastor

dee — Fri, 15 Apr 2011 21:18:34 +0000

"There are pastors who won't go to people's sick beds. How can people of God turn their back on the sick, poor and hungry?" James Robinson Sunset over the Sahara-NASA On Monday, we will look at the 20/20 story on the IFB churches which dealt with sexual and child abuse. What has happened to the role of pastor? I think of the genial Methodist minister who lived up the street who occasionally visited our home, along with the homes of all of our neighbors, for coffee and cookies. He was often found at the local hospitals and nursing homes, visiting church members and even some locals who were not church attendees. He attended Little League games, cheering on the kids from his youth group. He attended school board meeting and gave the occasional prayer. Our Russian Orthodox priest always viited our home. He could be seen dancing the polka at the Polish festivals and kept a similar schedule to his Methodist counterpart. Both men were known, respected and genuinely liked by the community in Salem, Massachusetts. Soon after I became a Christian, I met another pastor who was cut from the same cloth. These Continue reading →

Written by: dee on Fri, Apr 15 2011.

Categories: Abusive church tactics, Authoritarian leadership, Churchianity, Conferences, Ed Young Jr., Musings

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Ed Young Jr. Videos Back In Action

dee — Fri, 11 Mar 2011 22:02:27 +0000

Tom Rich, FBC Jax Watchdog, was successful in getting Ed Young Jr's tithing videos back on VIMEO by appealing to the Fair Use Doctrine. Atta way to go, Dog! Young wanted the public's attention and, by golly, he got it. So, for those of you who missed it, please refer to our post- Ed Young Jr-It's All About the Money. Link here.

Written by: dee on Fri, Mar 11 2011.

Categories: Ed Young Jr.

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Spiritual Abuse: The Public Speaks Back and the Church Just Whines

dee — Fri, 04 Mar 2011 22:32:45 +0000

@font-face { font-family: “Cambria”; }p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal { margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: “Times New Roman”; }div.Section1 { page: Section1; } "In the midst of a world of light and love, of song and feast and dance, [Lucifer] could find nothing to think of more interesting than his own prestige." CS Lewis A Preface to Paradise Lost freefoto.com Pain. That is what surprised me. So many people have experienced unrelenting pain that began at the hands of callous pastors and Christian leaders. Naively, many of those hurt had once thought that the church would be a loving family that would love and support each other in the pursuit of the faith. And many churches encouraged this sort of thought process. “ Come to church, find Jesus, and find a family.” Some groups even refer to themselves as a “family.” However, because sin is always present, both in the members AND the leaders/pastors, this ideal has been shattered for many. For some, church becomes the first place in which new Christians experience heartache. Years ago, I had no idea that churches could cause such pain. But, experience and personal reports have convinced Continue reading →

Written by: dee on Fri, Mar 04 2011.

Categories: Abusive church tactics, Blogging and the church, Ed Young Jr., Ergun Caner, SBC pastors, Southern Baptist Convention, Spiritual abuse

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Spiritual Abuse: Why Are Pastors Silent About the Real Reason People Are Leaving the Church?

dee — Tue, 08 Feb 2011 22:37:58 +0000

"For from the least of them to the greatest of them, everyone is greedy for gain, and from the prophet even to the priest, everyone deals falsely. And they have healed the brokenness of my people superficially saying, “Peace. peace,” but there is no peace." Jeremiah 6:13-14 This morning it dawned on me, I have heard sermons on just about every subject imaginable ranging from social issues, church history, doctrine, creation, gossip, anger, but I have never heard one sermon on spiritual abuse. Not even in some of the good churches. Why? The answer is relatively obvious. Pastors rarely preach on the subject because, by and large, pastors and other church leaders (including parachurch ministries) are the perpetrators of such exploitation. It is far easier to do a sermon about shared sin, like anger and immorality. It is even easier to do a sermon about how the church membership is not doing their part to build up said leader. It is much harder to talk about an issue that is primarily one-sided. Some of us have a faulty view of Christian leadership which can hinder recovery from spiritual abuse. Once again, we look to Continue reading →

Written by: dee on Tue, Feb 08 2011.

Categories: Abusive church tactics, Church conflict, Ed Young Jr., Spiritual abuse

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