When a Christian Radio Station Is Accused of a Hostile Work Environment: A Look at WPOZ Orlando, “The Z.”

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“I keep my head down and for self-preservation just do my work with little conversation with anyone. Yet the irony is this: in my self-preservation, I’m actually destroying myself. In bottling up my unexpressed feelings, I’m making myself sick emotionally and physically.” ― Gary Chapman, Rising Above a Toxic Workplace: Taking Care of Yourself in an Unhealthy Environment


(I spoke with two individuals for this post but I have chosen not to name them. Things are a bit hot down in Orlando at the moment.)

Christianity, the faith, had become big business. Many of us, myself included, are responsible for allowing this to develop. I lived in Dallas. A typical conversation would go something like this. “Where do you go to church?” ” I go to First Baptist, Dallas. Have you heard about their $130 million building fund? It is such a goooooood church.”  I participated in such discussions, sometimes even chiming in about how my church was growing. The faith has become a mega-conglomerate enterprise in which success is measured by large attendance, lots of money, and a pastor who is so successful that his goal was to write books and speak about how to become like him.( I am not speaking about my church, Bent Tree. I am speaking about others like Fellowship Church.)

Yet, there was pain that was well hidden. The pastor was often a narcissistic control freak who bullied his underlings. They, in turn, bullied the faithful, copying the style of the pastor. However, little did such ministries exhibit the fruits of the spirit as listed in Galatians 5:22-23 NIV.

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.

Think about it. How often have you heard that “X” church is so successful because it is so kind or the leadership is so gentle? I never heard of such Biblical assessments expressed neither did I say such things in the past. My thinking began to change in the late 90s. And here I am today. One of the things I say about my current church is that it is kind, gentle, and peaceful.-

Christian businesses

As a new Christian, I often thought I would love to work for a Christian business because, well, wouldn’t it be “godly?” Sadly, it appears that many *Christian” businesses merely mimic what they see in today’s evangelical industrial complex. Can I name a few such businesses? You know them. Ravi Zacharias Ministries and Dave Ramsey.) Take a minute and think. Do these companies, along with many others, pass the “fruits of the spirit” test?

The highly successful yet possibly striking out on the “fruits” test is WPOZ/Orlando (Z88.3, or “The Z.”)

Given my argument that Christian organizations should be judged by the “fruits of the spirits” test, I want to focus on one of the most well-known and probably most successful radio stations in the country is WPOZ, aka “The Z.”  Except I made a mistake here. Given that I now judge Christian companies by the “fruits” test, I may have judged this station wrongly by saying it’s successful. In fact, if what I believe is true, then this station may be an outright failure.

According to Wikipedia, Jim Hoge started this station 26 years ago and it is consolidated under the Central Florida Educational Foundation. (I know, it sounds confusing.) Jim Hoge is known by some employees to be a difficult boss. In fact, some claim that it is a hostile work environment. Let’s take a look at some things that have happened.

Hoge claimed he was changing the name of the station to Joy and it all *hit the fan.*

Another well-known radio group planned to enter the Orlando market and this was not to Hoge’s liking. According to Radio Inside: Report: Exodus At WPOZ Orlando After Owner Fabricates Press Release About Rebranding:

President and Founder Jim Hoge fabricated a story that he planned to re-brand the station as “Joy 88.3” ahead of Radio Training Network (RTN) launching Christian AC “Joy FM” WNUE-FM (98.1).

After originally telling HisAir.net, a publication that reports on Christian radio, about plans to rename the station, Hoge later recanted his release, saying “for us to rebrand to the same name would be greatly detrimental to [RTN’s] ministry.”

According to station employees, Hoge never planned to relaunch the heritage Christian outlet, and issued a release saying otherwise in an effort to stop RTN from placing its “Joy FM” network in the market.

Most churches at least pretend to welcome a new church to the area, even if they are afraid of *sheep-stealing,* One would think The Z would grin and bear it. Hoge had a different idea. I believe that Hoge claims he just thought the new name would be *nice.”  It wasn’t viewed that way and a controversy ensued.

Jim Davis, an on-air host at The Z, decided it was time to tell the truth.

(Raddio Inside) Jim Davis was the Underwriting Coordinator/Traffic Coordinator and an on-air host at WPOZ who says he was fired after participating in a story written by Ministry Watch that exposed Hoge’s discredited press release. Davis told the publication Hoge “had no intention of switching our format or our name. He has taken us to a new level of low. We’re a laughing-stock in the industry right now.”

Davis was subsequently fired from his position at The Z where he had worked for 23 years.

Davis’ firing followed the firing of 6 other employees

Ministry Watch posted Current and Former Staffers Call for Change at Orlando’s WPOZ:

More than a dozen current and former staff members have spoken to MinistryWatch about both their love for the ministry, and the difficulties they have had working there.

Cindy Simmons, a well-liked radio host, spoke to Ministry Watch, expressing her concerns that Hoge was an allegedly abusive boss.

I began to see a leadership style I had never seen before, not even in secular radio,” Simmons said.  Simmons said Hoge would belittle staff.  She said he repeatedly yelled at her for mentioning Orlando’s biggest tourist attraction, Disney, on the air.

She went to her pastor,  Renaut van der Riet, who confirmed her story for Ministry Watch. Then, he heard similar stories from several other employees and felt he needed to help them. Things did not go well. Hoge responded in what might seem to be a paranoid manner.

Van der Riet reached out to a few of his friends at The Z.  When he did that, Hoge asked for a meeting with him.  Van der Riet immediately agreed and shared with Hoge what he had heard.  Hoge denied there was a problem.  But van der Riet could see even in that initial meeting some of the behaviors Simmons and the other Z staffers had mentioned to him.  “He raised his voice at me, too,” van der Riet said.  “He accused me of lying and attempting a hostile takeover of the station.”

In a brief interview with MinistryWatch, Hoge repeated the accusation that van der Riet was attempting a “hostile takeover” of the station.  However, van der Riet denied that.  “I’m the pastor of a large church, I have eight children.  The last thing I need is to be involved with a radio station.

Joel Hunter of Northland Church was brought in to assess the mutiny at WPOZ.

Media Confidential  posted Orlando Radio: Mutiny At Christian WPOZ Z88.3 FM

Hoge agreed to allow Joel Hunter to interview the staff of The Z, and to present the findings to the board of directors.  Joel Hunter had served for more than 30 years as the pastor of Northland Church, one of the largest evangelical churches in the country, and a church many of The Z’s staff had attended over the years, including Hoge himself.

However, nearly a dozen current and former staff members who spoke to Hunter told MinistryWatch that they were direct with Hunter about their concerns.  They described a “toxic” work environment in which people were afraid of Hoge, who was known to belittle staff members.

Joel Hunter made a  report to the station’s board of directors in February 2020.   Hunter tried to assure Hoge that it was not a hostile takeover, or a takeover of any kind, but an attempt by those who love the ministry to help it take corrective action.  According to Kenyon, “Joel said, ‘If you don’t deal with these issues, they have a way of finding the light of day.’”

After the meeting, respected board member Dwight Bain resigned.

The Founder’s Clause may be a big part of the problem.

Ministry Watch wrote about this clause here.

Founder’s clauses are rare, but not unheard of, in the corporate world, especially at technology start-ups that start to take on investor capital.  They are clauses in the by-laws of an organization, or contractual arrangements, that protect the founders from being fired if the ownership of the founders is diluted to the point that they no longer own a controlling stake.

If they are rare in for-profit companies, they are almost unheard of in non-profit organizations.

According to Ministry Watch:

Woods believes the Founder’s Protection clause in Z Ministries’ bylaws made Hoge’s behavior worse. Woods recounts an exchange he had with Hoge in October of 2018.  After a week of conflict and tense relations, the two had a meeting in which Woods brought up the Founder’s Protection clause by saying, “Nobody can fire you.”

Hoge responded, “You’re right.”

Woods said, “That is not something to be proud of.”

Hoge answered, “I am proud of it.”

Woods believes that this attitude is why the station has its current “toxic” environment, and is why he ultimately left the station and is now speaking out.

Three other apparent problems: NDAs, inadequate Board oversight, and narcissism

These came up in my discussions.

  1. Hoge allegedly targeted an overweight man, telling him he couldn’t sit on chairs because “he broke them.” He eventually brought him a rolling chair which he was required to bring from room to room. Eventually, this man resigned but was allegedly required to sign an NDA.
  2. The Board was made up of several employees who reported to Hoge, Hoge, and Dwight Bain who resigned from the Board during this time and refused to speak about it. I wonder why that is?
  3. Given the setup of the Board, the Founder’s clause, and the apparent success that Hoge had in getting rid of employees, one might wonder if we are dealing with a narcissistic personality.

Hoge was incredibly successful. I do believe that there should be some protections accorded the successful entrepreneur. However, a problem can erupt when there is poor board oversight along with NDAs.

Let me leave you with this thoughtful post from Forbes: 7 Things Only Narcissists Do In Business

as well as

Ep. 102: The State of Christian Radio With Syndicated Radio Host Brant Hansen (Click on the next line for audio)

https://content.blubrry.com/ministrywatchpodcast/MinistryWatch_Ep102.mp3

Whoops…I almost forgot. How does Hoge match up with the “fruits of the spirit list ???

Comments

When a Christian Radio Station Is Accused of a Hostile Work Environment: A Look at WPOZ Orlando, “The Z.” — 42 Comments

  1. It is one thing for people to reject Jesus because of the offense of the Gospel.

    Sadly, people have little problem with that these days because they have been turned away by the offensive behavior of those purporting to be Christians long before actually getting a chance to hear the Gospel.

  2. I did Christian Radio for about 15 years – I am not at all surprised by any of this. While (as Brant and many others state) there are a LOT of great people involved in the business, the management styles have changed drastically in the past 20 years. The stories around Hoge are hardly the only ones of things sounding “Positive and Encouraging” on the air while morale is tanking in the hallways.

    Also, The Z is not part of Salem Radio but all would be wise to read up on the massive influence Salem has had on Christian Radio in the past 20 years. It helps set the scene (along with K-LOVE, on which W Throckmorton has reported) for the rest of the industry, both on and off the air.

  3. I spent my life in radio and tv stations and the worst job I had was a 3 month stint with a Canadian branch of a US religious network.

    The boss above my boss was clueless. He was a nice, tired pastor who was marking time until he retired. My boss, was very experienced nationally and the best producer I have ever seen. But, he did not like news people (for good reason given some of his experience) and it was a tough and toxic workplace for me. He was burned out and going through some personal problems and I was a recipient of his ego, his Christianize and his pain and excuses. He was allowed to act badly, no consequences. Things blew up, far worse than anything I ever saw in secular media both with him and shortly after with scandals in the US. To this day I don’t know if I quit or got fired.

    The parent network in the US offered me a job, and more money per year than I’d see working in Canada in five years. I went down and checked it out – super professional staff, top notch equipment, and to this day I am grateful I turned it down.
    Life lessons.

    I spent my life in ‘secular media’ and I met a lot of fellow Christians in the newsroom, the on air staff and in the office. It was where God called me and many others to be.
    I have advised young journalists to avoid ‘christian media.’

    Work in media if that’s what God has called you to. Be His child there. At least you have some workplace protections because it is regulated. No one pretends blames God for their faults, mistakes and lack of training and experience or looks the other way at the bad behavior of their key staff.

    Christian media is an oxymoron. Broadcasting is a business.
    The bottom line is earnings.

    Broadcasting attracts egos and narcissists and all kinds of players.
    It also attracts some of the most talented, honest, hard working people I have had the privilege of knowing. Most of them don’t wind up being religion pushers in the christian media bubble.

  4. I worked for two years in a religious environment (a Christian college) in the early 1990s. And then I lived in Utah for seven years, where a certain religious absolutely dominates life, including secular business. I am flatly going to state that I prefer working for my evil, too big to fail secular employer. Because I KNOW they’re at *best* amoral and they’re not disguising it. I know that my employer does stuff because they’re ordered to by law or pressured by society on the outside or from below by the staff.

    Perhaps the best thing would be for religious organizations to admit they operate under the same strictures as secular organizations. Or at least people ought to expect that religious organizations are not going to be righteous.

  5. The Didache, which almost became part of the NT, has some things to say about how to recognize false prophets and those who make “traffic of Christ. It doesn’t take long to read. Here is a link to several translations for those interested: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/didache.html
    Although almost 2000 years old, it still has some timely advice.

  6. Sadly, it seems like the evangelical church and all of its offshoot businesses have so much more to do with the acts of the flesh than with the fruits of the spirit these days. It seems like we’re at the point they are barely even trying to disguise it anymore.

    The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

    But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law

  7. Reminds me of a Brennan Manning quote at the beginning of the DC Talk song “What if I Stumble”;
    “The greatest single cause of atheism in the world today is Christians who acknowledge Jesus with their lips and walk out the door and deny Him by their lifestyle. That is what an unbelieving world simply finds unbelievable.”

  8. “Christian Radio Station Is Accused of a Hostile Work Environment”

    When “Christian” is used in the same sentence as “hostile”, it’s a good sign that the organization is not truly Christian at the top. After a while, every organization takes on the personality of its leader. Toxic leader = toxic work environment.

    Just as living in a garage doesn’t make you a car … playing Christian music, speaking Christianese, and broadcasting Christian ministries don’t mean you are a Christian.

    ” … the kingdom of Heaven is … righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. If you put these things first in serving Christ you will please God and are not likely to offend men. So let us concentrate on the things which make for harmony, and on the growth of one another’s character” (Romans 14 Phillips)

    Hoge’s endeavor has been a business not a ministry. WPOZ is in the Christian Industrial Complex, not the Kingdom of God.

  9. From the ministry Watch article Current and Former Staffers Call for Change at Orlando’s WPOZ: “After that initial meeting between Hoge and van der Riet, Simmons said Hoge called her and “screamed at me and said I tattle-taled to my pastor.””

    Um, isn’t one supposed to talk to their pastor? Hoge doesn’t seem to think so….

    From the Ministry Watch article Ministry Founders…And Other False Gods: “Hodge says ministry founders have a strong sense of calling, but too often they hear only “the call to come in, but not the call to go out.””

    Love the quote. 🙂

    From the OP: “Hoge allegedly targeted an overweight man, telling him he couldn’t sit on chairs because “he broke them.” He eventually brought him a rolling chair which he was required to bring from room to room.’

    And according to the Ministry Watch article Current and Former Staffers Call for Change at Orlando’s WPOZ the overweight man was also blind: “One former staff member, Tate Luck, is blind and – according to several staff members – a large man. At a staff meeting, Hoge once told Luck to sit on the floor because he “breaks all the chairs.” Hoge eventually purchased Luck a rolling chair and made him roll it around the office so he would not use the chairs intended for the rest of the staff.”

  10. researcher: “screamed at me and said I tattle-taled to my pastor.””

    “tattle-tale” is a juvenile term used on school playgrounds by narcissistic bullies … Mr. Hoge is a bad-boy, most likely always been one

  11. BD: I have advised young journalists to avoid ‘christian media.’
    Work in media if that’s what God has called you to. Be His child there. At least you have some workplace protections because it is regulated.

    Great comment. I’m so glad you went in a different direction.

  12. Muslin, fka Dee Holmes: I am flatly going to state that I prefer working for my evil, too big to fail secular employer. Because I KNOW they’re at *best* amoral and they’re not disguising it. I know that my employer does stuff because they’re ordered to by law or pressured by society on the outside or from below by the staff.

    Well said!

  13. Anon Guy: The stories around Hoge are hardly the only ones of things sounding “Positive and Encouraging” on the air while morale is tanking in the hallways.

    The station may have been promoting a light at the end of the tunnel … but it was hell in the hallways.

  14. Max: Just as living in a garage doesn’t make you a car … playing Christian music, speaking Christianese, and broadcasting Christian ministries don’t mean you are a Christian.

    BINGO.

  15. BD: Work in media if that’s what God has called you to. Be His child there.

    Thank you for saying this. As a teen, I played music OK and wrote pretty well, and I was a Christian. In our church youth group, though, I was not a Christian writer or a Christian musician.

    I noticed something about the teens like me, my friends in the group who were known as Christian writers and Christian musicians. A Christian writer wrote Christian things in Christian talk, leaving out anything that might be complicated or “worldly” [shudder]. Christian musicians played Christian music. Nobody cared if they sang off key and the song was a lot worse than “Chopsticks,” as long as they were shiny faced and praising the Lord.

    God is smarter than I am, and I do not insult God by developing a God-given skill.

  16. Speaking of ministry shenanigans, Sarah Davis, daughter of Ravi Zacharias and former president of RZIM, has left to form another ministry called Encounter, Inc., whose stated purpose is “carrying the Gospel invitation to individuals,” “engaging their questions,” and “training and disciplining messengers of Christ’s love for their spheres of influence.”

    https://julieroys.com/zacharias-daughter-new-ministry-critics/

    I wonder how she’s going to do that? I don’t know who holds the copyrights on Zacharias’ many books and videos. Does she? Has she realized that her father’s name is mud?

    *sigh* at least at my evil too big to fail employer, we have actual US Senators who keep an eye on us and regularly state they believe we should be broken up. (I generally disagree with that Senator for technical reasons.) And we have government agencies who are all up in our business. Who watches over Christian ministries?

  17. Friend,

    I remember what it was like back then (early 70s).
    It really was theatre of the absurd.
    ‘Christian’ this, ‘christian’ that, everybody wanted a piece of the action.

  18. There are more items of interest over at Julie Roys. They include a couple of lawsuits aimed right at ARC, the first article I have seen accusing Young Life of covering up sexual abuse and another SBC pastor is arrested in a sting operation after trying to prey on a 15 year old.

  19. Max,

    Just like political figures, it is not just “crime”, it is cover-up afterwords…. She is apparently “tone deaf”. The class-action lawsuit against by RZIM, unless it gets “settled” should really blow open RZIM for what it really was/is…

  20. Muslin, fka Dee Holmes: Who watches over Christian ministries?

    They’re supposed to mind their own P(s) and Q(s), but they don’t, because they have no incentive to do so.
    If they had to file IRS form 990, they’d have to say where all that moolah is going.
    I think it’s a fair compromise in exchange for not paying taxes.
    All other non-profits have to file form 990, why not them?

  21. Ava Aaronson: Question for Sarah, “Why the NDAs?”

    Yep, if her outfit does anything, they need to be asked over and over about releasing Lori Ann Thompson from the NDA.

  22. Afterburne: It is one thing for people to reject Jesus because of the offense of the Gospel.

    Sadly, people have little problem with that these days because they have been turned away by the offensive behavior of those purporting to be Christians long before actually getting a chance to hear the Gospel.

    The assumption here is that if you could but hear the gospel then you’ll become Christian.

    Not always. You can hear it, believe it, and then cease believing in it.

    But I will agree that religious shenanigans take away much of the credibility of scripture.

  23. Muslin, fka Dee Holmes: need to be asked

    Lots of questions for Sarah as she ventures into a question answering “ministry”. Yes, let’s go there, Sarah. Here’s one:

    How do perverts (and their enabling families) who fleece the Flock and violate women fare in Eternity?

  24. Muslin, fka Dee Holmes: Yep, if her outfit does anything, they need to be asked over and over about releasing Lori Ann Thompson from the NDA.

    Surely Lori Ann Thompson and RZ-the-predator-pervert’s other targets have important questions for RZ-the-predator-pervert’s predator-enabling family, such as Sarah.

    Meanwhile, we can anticipate the Q/A.

    Will Sarah continue to fleece the Flock like her family pervert? For her new “ministry”? She must be in a cash crunch. She had a role model for Flock fleecing. Knows the ropes. No lack of firsthand institutional knowledge.

  25. When a Christian Radio Station Is Accused of a Hostile Work Environment: A Look at WPOZ Orlando, “The Z.”

    Justified by BIBLE – specifically Isaiah 55:9?

  26. Ava Aaronson: How do perverts (and their enabling families) who fleece the Flock and violate women fare in Eternity?

    Sorry, Ava, but everyone in-country has been threatened with The Great White Throne and Eternal Hell for so long it’s lost its punch. “Yeah, Whatever, bla bla bla.”

    And these pervs and their enabling families KNOW they’re God’s Speshul Pets and Court Favorites, so it couldn’t possibly happen to them. (There’s a Reddit called “Leopards Ate My Face” on the generic version of just that attitude.)

  27. Muff Potter: I think it’s a fair compromise in exchange for not paying taxes.
    All other non-profits have to file form 990, why not them?

    Some years ago, a Senator or Congressman tried to investigate Televangelists (and by extension, these kinds of Ministries(TM)). The cry of “PERSECUTION!!!!!! spread throughout the Holy Grapevine, Christiane Mobilized with Threats of Boycott and Primarying him out of office PERMANENTLY, and he had to back off or be destroyed. All those Christians sending their Social Security checks to their favorite Televangelist and his private jet…

  28. Ken F (aka Tweed): The Didache, which almost became part of the NT, has some things to say about how to recognize false prophets and those who make “traffic of Christ.

    As I understand it, at least a THIRD of the Didache is on how to recognize a con man.
    So this problem has been going on for a LONG time.

  29. Headless Unicorn Guy: Some years ago, a Senator or Congressman tried to investigate Televangelists

    In the American church, that’s as dangerous as attempting to investigate Freemasonry in the elder/deacon body! You won’t get very far before the man behind the curtain demands your head.

  30. Max: that’s as dangerous as attempting to investigate Freemasonry in the elder/deacon body!

    The solution is for the Freemasons to meet inside the liquor store, where Baptists never recognize one another. 😉

  31. I find Christian music quite boring. My wife listens to k love. Not sure what I think about it all. I just continue to reading the Bible and listening to spirit filled pastors.

  32. Friend: The solution is for the Freemasons to meet inside the liquor store, where Baptists never recognize one another.

    Q: Why do you have to take two Baptists with you when you go fishing?

    A: Because if you take just one, he’ll drink all your beer.

  33. Max: Why do you have to take two Baptists with you when you go fishing?

    Baptists are against premarital sex because it could lead to dancing.

  34. Muff Potter:
    Friend,

    I remember what it was like back then (early 70s).
    It really was theatre of the absurd.
    ‘Christian’ this, ‘christian’ that, everybody wanted a piece of the action.

    “And you’ll only drink milk
    If it comes from a CHRISTIAN Cow…”
    — Steve Taylor, “Guilty by Association”

    “Testamints – Just like Altoids, Except CHRISTIAN(TM)!”
    “Christian Chirp – Just like Twitter, Except CHRISTIAN(TM)!”
    “GodTube – Just like YouTube, Except CHRISTIAN(TM)!”
    “Christian Wrestling Federation – Just like WWE, Except CHRISTIAN(TM)!”
    I’m waiting for the “Just like Ashley Madison, Except CHRISTIAN(TM)!”
    (Any day now…)

    “Just Like Fill-In-The-Blank, Except CHRISTIAN(TM)!” is NEVER a good sign.