I have always felt that violence was the last refuge of the incompetent, and empty threats the last sanctuary of the terminally inept. -Neil Gaiman link
Update 11/27 I am removing the name of one individual who claimed we were on a witch hunt because it has caused issues for someone not associated with this blog. Ths was not done out of pressure, merely kindness. We stand by our initial post. If you have questions about it, you can contact us off line.
In my former church, a predator, Doug Goodrich, was caught after molesting a number of young teen boys. My friend, the mother of one of the teens, contacted the other parents about testifying in court against him. This predator was charming and a number of the parents, especially women, liked him. My friend was told that she shouldn't try to send him to prison since he was a great guy and just needed to be counseled. One woman in the church, untrained, said she was willing to be his counselor! My friend realized was stunned by this person's dangerous lack of common sense, proceeded with her valiant efforts. Goodrich was sentenced to 13 years in prison, much to the dismay of some of his supporters.
As an aside, let me testify to the heinous level or perversion that were inflicted on these boys. I am used to talking about abuse but this, without a doubt, was amongst the grossest and despicable acts I have heard about. Trust me on this one.
Look at what his attorney had to say. Words like "a good person" and "man's law" (as opposed to what, God's law?) Since I was intimately involved in this situation, I found myself shocked at the stupidity of some of the Christian leaders and church members involved in the situation.
Goodrich's defense attorney, Joseph Cheshire, called the prison sentence one of the harshest he has ever seen.
"Quite often, people who are charged with sex offense do not admit what they've done. They can never come to grips with it," Cheshire said. "They have no remorse, no ability to work through those issues. He was entirely different than that."
Cheshire said Goodrich was a victim of unrecognized sexual, physical and psychological abuse and that "there were a lot of very troubling aspects to his life."
"He recognizes he's got to pay the price of man's law," Cheshire said. "I think he'll do it with his head up and come out a good person. He's going in a good person – flawed, but good."
So, I am rather irritated at myself that I didn't remember those lessons of 8 years ago when some bizarre things happened the last few days. Can you imagine a watch group that does not want to watch a confirmed rapist?
The Collierville Watch Facebook Group deleted information about a predator and refused to post any information on the convicted aggravated statutory rapist at Highpoint Church. Why?
This is a closed group which means you must be a member in order to participate. Here is the description of what they write about.
This group is for Collierville TN residents. This is a place to share suspicious activity in our area, crimes, RECENT stories and events that affect our community. Non emergency Millersville police: 901-853-3207
I have now heard from two individuals who were concerned about Timothy Heinz, a convicted statutory rapist. We wrote about this situation in High point Church Memphis Has a Convicted Statutory Rapist Leading Worship. In this post you will find the documents proving that Heinz is a registered sex offender in Tennessee and that he has raped an underage girl.
There is more than sufficient proof that Timothy Heinz is a convicted predator.
One local person posted a link to our blog as well as Watch Keep in which the documents of his conviction and current status are well spelled out. In fact, one can use links to find the documentation on the official sex registry list in about 5 seconds. Also, one can call Highpoint Church to confirm that indeed, Heinz played in the worship band until our blogs outed his presence and the church removed him from that position.
The church was forced to make a statement on November 23 here. For your convenience, I have reprinted the entire statement at the end of this post. However, the leaders flat out admit that they knew he was a convicted statutory rapist and let him play in the band anyway. (I think I may have to do a separate post because there is so much to discuss about this statement.)
The conviction is so well documented that Raw Story linked to TWW for their story Church with rapist leading worship postpones merger with second church facing sex abuse claims. In other words, folks, there is no doubt that:
-Timothy Heinz is a rapist.
-He is a registered sex offender in Tennessee.
–High point Church knew this information and allowed him to help lead worship anyway.
The Collierville Watch group have changed their *rules* on their website in the last day, adding this little doozy.
*You cannot post links to blogs or express your views on businesses or people without a news story or reliable source link. Slander and harassment of any kind is not allowed here. This is illegal and police reports can, will and have been filed, so just don't.
Why Collierville-isn't High point Church in Memphis?
High point Church has now linked to a former church in Collierville.You can read the two posts about the three victims of a pedophile that has links to that Collierville church here, here, here, here and here.
TWW and Amy Smith were accused of being on a *witch hunt* by the administrator of the Collierville group.
One of the administrators of the group refused to post the links to the information from local members. Eventually this is what she told an individual. Update 11/26 10:40 PM EST Another group un Colliervilees refuses to link to the post because it includes the name of the administrator for the Collierville Watch Group. In the interest of seeing if this is the real reason, I have deleted, for now, the original tweet and posted it without identifiers to see if this make a difference.
Witch hunt? I responded that we were on a predator hunt and we found one, with plenty of documentation. Folks, let's get this straight. This individual had documentation of a convicted statutory rapist, the church admitted it, Raw Story reported it and we are the problem? At this point, I knew something was really wrong. I have never seen this sort of reaction by a watch group and I was suspicious that there was some sort of attempts to coverup going on in the background.
The threats commence.
In fairly short order, I began to receive a barrage of Direct Message tweets from an individual who shall remain anonymous. We know her name and she used it. However at the end of this exchange, she claimed she was 17. I never knowingly engage an underage kid on Twitter. We have since received reports that she is the daughter of one of the administrators which leads me to wonder if she was used to communicate the following.
- I was accused of slander which, of course, means I was telling a lie. I never knowingly tell lies and that is why I post screen shots and links.
- We were accused of having misleading and incorrect information and were *looking for trouble.* Yet, our information was totally correct and could be verified within minutes.
- We were accused of having an agenda which is meant to sound negative. We do have an agenda. We like to protect kids.
- She said that our tweets were hurting her personal life and business although, at this point, they had only been up a matter of hours and we don't have many Twitter followers in Collierville.
- She then said the police have been contacted for harassment and slander of XXXXXXXXXXXXX.
- She then claimed that a police officer told them, during their *report* that the victim was 17/18 years old and no violence occurred!!!!
Here are the tweets I received. I will comment more after you read them.
- I believe these arguments were given to this person to DM to me and that they represent the deeply concerning viewpoints represented by the leader of this watch group.
- I was told to remove my post because it was slander. I believe this person is referring to a tweet in which I responded and said I was on a predator hunt, not a witch hunt. I did ask if marijuana was legalized in Tennessee since my proof was uncontestable.
- The author said I needed to apologize to xxxxxxxx (11/27) for throwing her name "down in the dirt" or a police report for slander would be made. I told her my hone number was on my blog and to let me know when the police were contacted, obviously knowing that telling the truth is not slander.
- She went on to say that they had to fact check everything for legalities. Of course, since he was on the offender registry, this made no sense whatsoever.
- Then she claimed that the police have already been contacted, negating her first DM. It was obvious to me that she was not telling the truth at this point. I told her to contact my lawyer.
The concerning comment about a rape not being violent.
This individual claimed that the person was 17/18. There are three problems with this. If she was 18, it would not be statutory rape. Secondly, we have been in touch with several sources who know the young girl who was raped and she was 13/14 at the time. Rape is statutory whether one is 13 or 17. Being 17 doesn't make it OK. I knew something was off about these folks by this time.
Then this individual said that "no violence was involved" and this incident occurred 7 years ago. Rape is always violent and this is a stunning admission from someone involved in a watch group. The fact that a rape occurred 7 years ago also does not mean that an individual is now *safe*or *all better.* Good night! Who is in charge of this crowd?
So why did the administrator of the group not approve the information and why did the administrator step down last night?
I have been provided with some information and am asking the following questions in order to get confirmation:
1. Is Timothy Heinz's wife either now, or in the recent past, involved with the Collierville Watch Group?
2. Did Highpoint Church members apply pressure to not print this information on the Collierville Facebook page?
3. Why did the administrator not print the predator's information after the church made a public statement admitting to the presence of the sex offender on their worship team?
4. Why were we accused of being on a witch hunt and threatened with police reports for stating the truth?
5. Why did the administrator step down from her position last evening?
6. Did the administrator know that anyone falsely stating that a police report was made could be considered harassment by us?
A slight change in TWW's policy regarding confidentiality of emails or direct messages. Threats will not be tolerated.
For quite awhile, I believe we have been more than generous with our promise of confidentiality of emails. We wish to continue this.
However, from this point forward, if we are threatened that we will be or have been reported to the police or a person threatens us with slander, libel or defamation, bodily harm, etc. we will release their names and other identifiers to the public via our blog. This includes Direct Messages, phone messages and snail mail. Such threats may also be forwarded to legal counsel.
We will contact any police department in the area of the threat and ask if police reports have been made and will relay the name and other identifiers to the police.
We have kept many of these threats from our readers, knowing that most of them were from impotent blowhards. However, this series of Direct Messages and ridiculous threats affected my Thanksgiving as I pondered how to deal with them. I hope you all understand or reasons for doing this.
Statement from Highpoint Church November 23, 2016 link
As you read this information, it is important to know that we hurt for the victim and are always working toward healing for victims and perpetrators. It is our heart to always minister to all people in an honorable way that brings healing that can only come through Jesus.
Timothy (Tim) Heinz and his wife and children began attending High point when the Millersville campus first began in the fall of 2013, with his disclosure of being on the Sex Offender Registry to the High point leadership team. Our position was that Tim would be welcome to attend High point, but at that time he would not serve in any capacity. A year later, Tim approached the leadership about being allowed to serve. The decision was made that he would be able to serve in a support role on the production team with boundaries in place to hold Tim accountable and for everyone’s protection. He has done that faithfully for the last two years. In addition, from time to time, he has served as a bass player on stage for the worship services. At no time has he led worship for High point. In addition, Tim is not now nor has he ever been on staff at High point, and he is not paid for his volunteer ministry.
The safety of the children and students in our congregation is our highest priority. Before Tim ever visited High point, we’ve operated with a high level of protective policies and procedures* in place for our children and student ministries, including references and background checks on everyone – staff and volunteers – who ministers to kids and students. While we believe that nobody is beyond God’s redemption, we also believe that people must live with the consequences of their decisions. Thus, Tim has never worked with children or student ministries while at High point, and he has been in accountability with a team of men the entire time he has been at High point.
So, it is true that we have a convicted sex offender serving at High point Church. The reality is that High point Church is made up of all kinds of sinners. High point is a perfect place for imperfect people. As Paul pointed out in 1 Corinthians 6 in describing sinners, “And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.” We choose to believe His grace is sufficient for all our sins.
While His grace brings forgiveness, it still requires the church leadership to be responsible in taking appropriate measures in the best interest of our church family. In order to alleviate any potential adverse perception, and in view of the impact of this situation on Tim and his family, Tim will no longer be serving in any role on stage, but will continue to serve in a support role. Just as Jesus would have us do, we will continue to be a place of refuge for those who have been victims of sexual abuse and we will also continue to minister to Tim and his family.