Ed Young Jr. Videos Back In Action

Tom Rich, FBC Jax Watchdog,  was successful in getting Ed Young Jr's tithing videos back on VIMEO by appealing to the Fair Use Doctrine. Atta way to go, Dog!  Young wanted the public's attention and, by golly, he got it. So, for those of you who missed it, please refer to our post- Ed Young Jr-It's All About the Money. Link here.


Ed Young Jr. Videos Back In Action — 16 Comments

  1. Y’know, Tom (and by extension, this blog) aren’t the only ones being served lately with DMCA takedown orders for sermons they’re commenting on. Darrell, the guy behind Stuff Fundies Like got one from Bob Jones University for a sermon clip he used. His response? Well, he didn’t file a counter-notice as Tom must have done. You can find out what he did here. Personally, I think he was brilliant.

  2. Dee & Deb, first of all, I admire you courage for taking on some of the challenges facing the church today. It’s refreshing to see Christians who are not afraid to admit that there are issues within the walls of the church and are willing to discuss and face these issues “head on”. Keep up the great work!

    RE: Ed Young

    Perhaps there is no greater perversion within the modern church movement than the perversion surrounding money. Today’s church’s, particularly American churches, are guilty of the same “pay to pray” schemes which existed back in the days of Martin Luther.

    While Luther had other concerns about Papal abuse, it was the selling of indulgences that prompted him to hold a public debate on the matter. In Luther’s day, it was customary to announce the subject of a debate on the church door; thus, on October 31, 1517 Luther nailed his 95 point theses to the doors of the Wittenburg Church. Little did he know the can of worms he opened would split the church and usher in the Reformation and with it Protestantism.

    The indulgences of old promised that God would pardon people’s sins in exchange for a gift to the church. The indulgences sold today promise a return by God of up to a hundred fold with every gift. At the heart of the matter regarding indulgences, is the question of whether God’s favor can be bought or sold. Luther held to the belief that God’s benefits were not for sale.

    Today our churches build magnificent buildings which stand for man’s glory, instead of the glory of God. There are far too many preachers today, who in their greed and lust to build bigger buildings and bigger ministries have been selling God’s favor by using guilt, manipulation, twisting scriptures, and catchy phrases (i.e. “seed faith”, “name it and claim it” and many others) to build “their” kingdoms on earth.

    In the book, The Agony of Deceit, Joel Nederhood writes “whenever a religious leader or a church comes up with a scheme that confuses salvation (or other benefits from God) with some kind of monetary payment you have the worst kind of dishonesty. That is like trying to sell something that is not yours to sell. It is like trying to sell something again that has already been sold and paid for. It is a scam. It’s trickery. It’s self serving thievery”.

    As shocking as it seems, there are some things money can’t buy, and God is one them. God is not for sale. Any appeal to money that promises something from God in return is not true biblical teaching. It is a false teaching similar to the selling of indulgences that ultimately led to the Reformation. Perhaps, we need to take a page from Luther and do the same? (Reformation Part 2 )

    “But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping. 2 Peter 2:1-3

    Final thoughts:

    * There is an excellent website that I would highly recommend that discusses the subject of tithing. The website is: http://www.tithingdebate.com/. There are several free books available, such as “Should the Church Teach Tithing” by Dr. Russell Kelly; “Eating Sacred Cows” by Dr. Derek Prince; Tithing: Low Realm, Obsolete & Defunct” by Matthew Narramore.

    *Perhaps I missed it, but what is meaning behind the name of your blog?

    *I still don’t know how to use hyper-links on this blog. Watcher tried to give me some tips, but I have yet to figure it out, Anyway….

    *I have been rather busy as of late, Spring Break is here and the kids are home from College (Yea!) Soccer; school projects with the kids (we have 5); work; life and I need to get back to contributing to my blog… So, I will be less active in discussion, but I will continue to read.



  3. I’m not against building a new church, as long as, it does not interfere with the work of God

    There is nothing wrong with raising money to construct a nice building; however, with thousands of homeless people in our cities, and with millions of people starving to death throughout the world each year, it is appropriate to ask if today’s Christian Church has forgotten it’s real mission.

    There are currently more people unemployed in America then at anytime in the past 25 years. Millions of families have lost their homes, and millions of senior citizens are living below the poverty level. Worldwide, it is estimated that 1 child dies every 5 seconds, either directly or indirectly of hunger. That adds up to 700 children dying every hour…16,000 children dying every day… 6 million children dying every year.

    The chief danger of churches today is that they are trying to get on the same side as the world, instead of turning the world upside down. Churches are caught up in the materialistic society of which we live in, and as a result, they have become desensitized to the poor, the orphan and the widow. “Recent statistics from the Year Book of American and Canadian Churches and The National Center for Charitable Services reveal that Christian Churches and ministries in America have an annual income of $80 billion.” Consider what a powerful witness it would be if “the church” dedicated its resources to helping the poor. “It’s been estimated that if the American Church gave just ten percent of its annual revenue, the following accomplishments could all be achieved in just one year alone: six million starving children could be fed three meals a day, and 3000 homeless shelters could be built across the nation, with the capacity to house every homeless person in America. Also, new Bibles could be printed and delivered to 250 million persecuted Christians worldwide who are suffering for their faith without the comfort of having a Bible”.

    There are many in this world who would define a successful church by how large its building is… or by how many people attend each service… or by how many programs the church has to offer. Sadly, the list goes on…; however, the Bible defines it this way: “a pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world” James 1:27. It’s been said that church isn’t where you meet, the church is what you do. The church is who you are. The church is the human outworking of Christ who dwells and abides in us. The church is not a building, it’s us – it’s people. So, let’s not go to church, let’s be the church.

    But whoever has the world’s goods, and beholds his brother in need and closes his heart against him, how does the love of God abide in him? 1 John 3:17

    He who oppresses the poor reproaches his Maker, but he who is gracious to the needy honors Him. Proverbs. 14:31

    He defended the cause of the poor and needy, and so all went well. Is that not what it means to know me? declares the LORD. Jeremiah 22:16

  4. Last thing…it looks like I hyperlinked (it was an accident); too bad this thing does not have a spell check / grammar check 😉

    Off to soccer!

  5. Tikatu
    That last link did not work. I went to the blog and punched in Bob Jones in the search engine. It brought up the video. I now need to watch it but i can tell it is going to awesome! Thanks for the info. BTW, once again, for the record, let me say that Ed Young Jr is a wuss-actually, the wuss of all wusses after his latest move which I will tell everyone once I can. Oh, “wuss” is the nicest word I can think of at this moment. Man up Ed!!! You can do it! Show the people in your church that you can be a big boy and stand the courage of your convictions. After all, you are making lots of bank on it.

  6. DMF

    Now you are meddling. Can you imagine if churches actually took the Bible that seriously? Today’s church is valued for its entertainment value and for the celebrities that are produced. Pastors value it for the bank they can make-houses, jets, condos.

    I had a man send me an email who said that a guy, who was on staff of a pastor we have mentioned here, applied for a job as music minister. Because his former head pastor was making hundreds of thousands of dollars, he asked for a 6 figure salary. Needless to say, this church was smart and did not offer him a position.

  7. DMF wrote:
    “Perhaps I missed it, but what is meaning behind the name of your blog?”

    In response to your question, Martin Luther is one of our great heroes of the faith. It is incredible that Almighty God used one man to change the course of history. After Luther refused to recant at the Diet at Worms, he would have been murdered by Pope Leo’s henchmen; however, Prince Frederick had him kidnapped and taken to … Wartburg Castle.

    Here’s an excerpt from Wikipedia:


    “Luther’s disappearance during his return trip was planned. Frederick III, Elector of Saxony had him intercepted on his way home by masked horsemen and escorted to the security of the Wartburg Castle at Eisenach. During his stay at Wartburg, which he referred to as “my Patmos”,[60] Luther translated the New Testament from Greek into German and poured out doctrinal and polemical writings.”

    Have you seen the movie “Luther”? It’s one of my all-time favorites, and sometimes when I get discouraged by what I am witnessing in Christendom, I put in the DVD and get inspired all over again.

  8. Dee:

    You called Ed Jr. a ” wuss of all wusses”. I know that he would disagree with you strongly. Did you not see his latest video? He is not a wuss, he is a ferrari. I thought that video was almost as bizarre as Charlie Sheen. Can’t wait to read what Ed and his handlers have in store for us next.

  9. Anonymous

    I am sure he would disagree with me. However, I have Athena DNA and am therefore a goddess, so I am correct in my assessment. (Recalling Sheen’s Adonis DNA comment for the uninitiated.)

  10. Dee, I assume you will learn 3 things at Fellowship :

    1. How to have great sex (EY has talked about this at least 3 times, that I know of).
    2. How to raise great kids
    3. How to give Ed Young Jr. more money

    The reason, I assume he talks about sex so much is because he knows it will fill the pews.

    He makes Jesus & Christianity seem like one huge joke. You can tell he was NOT called by the Lord to lead.

    Seriously, Is there something at Fellowship that makes people LOVE this church? because I just don’t get what all the fuss is about.

  11. Jessica

    Ed will always appeal to a group of people who looooove Christian Lite. I knew many of them in my tenure in Dallas. First and foremost-appearance is king. You can be poor as a church mouse but you will look like you have a Rolls Royce. Ed appeals to this crowd.

    Secondly, Ed appeals to the crowd who WANT lots and lots of money.This ties in with my first point. They don’t have to listen to a preacher warn about the love of money being the root of all evil. In Ed’s eyes, money, and lots of it, is good or even better than good because God is rewarding you for focusing on money by giving Ed your gross tithe. Dallas is known for its big money and no one wants some uppity preacher telling anyone to sacrifice.

    Thirdly, Ed needs everyone to have good kids because kids with problems means that you are not successful. In Dallas, people spend lots and lots of money on their kids who are mini-reflections of their parents’ desire to appear wealthy. I know many women who want their kids to marry wealthy people first. The Christian part is nice but definitely does not trump money.

    If you want to understand Ed, understand the people. Ed, even though he would never admit it, is made in the image of his followers. He is merely a little boy being molded by the events around him. In fact, he reminds me of some of the kids I knew in Dallas. They were living their parents’ dreams and Ed is living the dreams of his followers.

    Eventually, they will get tired of it. As Ed gets richer, the people get poorer and they tire of the show. They now want some of the action. However, the action is tied to the income of the church and only Ed can get his mitts on that. My understanding that people are leaving in droves while Ed continues to push the only agenda he knows-driving Ferraris on stage. He has never grown up.

    Once again, he is trying to get the videos removed and I will discuss that next week.

  12. Dee, Ed is doing a sermon tomorrow called “Swagger Jacker”. (funny, Lil’ Wayne Has a song by that exact same name).

    according to Urban Dictionary this is what a “Swagger Jacker” is:

    basically a person who steals someone else’s Ideas, Swagger, Lines, Jokes Style etc.

    I keep on praying to God that he continue to expose this fraud for what he is.

    I’ve even wanted to pray that Ed Young eventually Deny the Lord in front of his whole entire congregation if that is what it is going to take to WAKE these Sheep up.

    (Joel Osteen has already done that on Larry King Live).

  13. Jessica

    There are too many people like Ed in the ministry. He will always have supporters because he is made in their own image. It is mind boggling, that after the media expose, he still has followers. I think many of them want his house, his plane, his condo, his cars, etc. And they want to be allowed to want it. However, David Platt, would challenge this assumption. They don’t want to be challenged like that. They want to be challenged with the promise to find a life like Ed.

    I suspect that Ed may know a lot about swagger. I still remember a guy in front of me in the hand shake line who said “I like that sermons even better than when I hear it Willow Creek. I like how you had the some experience tie shopping as Hybels did.” I could barely hold back my laughter as Ed turned away to shake my hand.

    I ran after said gentleman and he and his family became members of our small group and we all left Fellowship together and joined Bent Tree Bible.

  14. Ed Young lets his love affair with wealth get in the way of people going to church. If preachers like him would take a vow of “poverty” and not justify and encourage “making money” central to their existence, then they would have their pews overflowing. Ed is a good speaker, charismatic, but his lifestyle turns so many away. I would bet that he catches and returns more fish than he keeps because of his lifestyle.
    He might as well be an openly gay minister. That’s how repugnant his “love of money” comes across to the seekers. You can give all sorts of excuses, but it isn’t Biblical.