Which is another reason I do not trust either of them. Been following Driscoll for years. He orchestrated a huge coup in his church and got rid of elders who dared disagree with them. He also had the bylaws changed. Then preached a “going OT on them” sermon. He is a hot head and dangerous. Not to mention his bizare sermons about all women being gossips. And his bizarre stance on filtering all his wife’s emails so she cannot communicate with women in the church because they are all “gossips”.

He has serious control issues. His vulgarity is only ONE of his problems.

I think he has some serious anger problems and a Napolean complex. He also has a history of being rebuked by certain bloggers, then repenting, then getting worse, then rebuked, then repenting (in word only) then getting worse.

Did anyone read his screed on pastors wives after the Ted Haggard scandal? It was bizarre and made no sense in light of Haggard being with a man. He actually blamed pastors wives! He said they let themselves go and that tempted the pastor to stray. He was rebuked and took it down off his site. (But keep in mind, it was his FIRST reaction). (I could only feel sorry for his wife. What if she becomes disfigured in an accident? Or has to take steroids for a disease or has a masectomy? Would you want to be married to someone that shallow?)

Quite frankly, Piper and guys like Akin have actually provided cover for Driscoll. It is one thing about McArthur I like. He is not fooled by Driscoll and has been outspoken about the very serious problems with Driscoll.

Which is another reason I do not trust either of them. Been following Driscoll for years. He orchestrated a huge coup in his church and got rid of elders who dared disagree with them. He also had the bylaws changed. Then preached a “going OT on them” sermon. He is a hot head and dangerous. Not to mention his bizare sermons about all women being gossips. And his bizarre stance on filtering all his wife’s emails so she cannot communicate with women in the church because they are all “gossips”.

He has serious control issues. His vulgarity is only ONE of his problems.

I think he has some serious anger problems and a Napolean complex. He also has a history of being rebuked by certain bloggers, then repenting, then getting worse, then rebuked, then repenting (in word only) then getting worse.

Did anyone read his screed on pastors wives after the Ted Haggard scandal? It was bizarre and made no sense in light of Haggard being with a man. He actually blamed pastors wives! He said they let themselves go and that tempted the pastor to stray. He was rebuked and took it down off his site. (But keep in mind, it was his FIRST reaction). (I could only feel sorry for his wife. What if she becomes disfigured in an accident? Or has to take steroids for a disease or has a masectomy? Would you want to be married to someone that shallow?)

Quite frankly, Piper and guys like Akin have actually provided cover for Driscoll. It is one thing about McArthur I like. He is not fooled by Driscoll and has been outspoken about the very serious problems with Driscoll.

You forgot to add that the speakers at this year’s SBC bemoaned the fact that SBC churches are leading less teenagers to Christ than they did in the 1970s. Then other speakers, including the GCR report, encouraged people to educate their children in Christian schools or home school.

Those can both be great educational choices, but there is a dissonance here that is simply not recognized.

Our youth pastor recently asked some home school kids in the youth group, “Tell me about some of your non-Christian friends and whether you think they would be interested in coming to church.” Their response, “We don’t have any non-Christian friends.”

It is very hard to be “in the world, but not of it.” But that is our challenge.

The SBC churches are not in danger, in my opinion, of becoming too much like the culture. But many of them are in danger of withdrawing from (or have already) from the culture.

This is true of many Christian churches, however, not just SBC churches.

Again, this is a tough calling. Different people and churches will do things differently. That’s why we need to give each other a little latitude on things like this.

Then there was the SBC and similar religious groups. They forbade drinking, but many got drunk every Friday night. They forbade movies but watched them when out of town. And so on for dancing, card playing, and dozens of other sins. The SBC pretended these mortal sins weren’t happening for most of the last 50 years while the rest of society moved on.

Now the pretense is over. But the SBC hardliners still don’t accept that these kinds of things aren’t sins. So they rail against folks who might have wine with dinner. Or whatever.

And they wonder where their youth is going?

And they expect to evangelize the north and west? While railing against these sins? And lets not forget the YEC tenets and other “you must accept to be a Christian” rules.

I think they are on a slow demographic path to irrelevance.

In my opinion.

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