Comments on: T4G BOOKSTORE – CHECK IT OUT!!! http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/04/08/t4g-bookstore-%e2%80%93-check-it-out/ Dissecting Christian trends. Posting Monday,Wednesday, Thursday and Friday Tue, 07 Feb 2012 22:35:47 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Lydia http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/04/08/t4g-bookstore-%e2%80%93-check-it-out/#comment-2885 Lydia Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:49:46 +0000 http://thewartburgwatch.com/?p=1212#comment-2885 Not a thing Not a thing

]]> By: Deb http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/04/08/t4g-bookstore-%e2%80%93-check-it-out/#comment-2884 Deb Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:06:16 +0000 http://thewartburgwatch.com/?p=1212#comment-2884 Lydia, What do you know about CCEF? Lydia,

What do you know about CCEF?

]]> By: dee http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/04/08/t4g-bookstore-%e2%80%93-check-it-out/#comment-2879 dee Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:58:29 +0000 http://thewartburgwatch.com/?p=1212#comment-2879 Lydia I believe that everybody in every church should be aware of the basics of spiritual tyranny. I had been a member in some great churches with wonderful pastors. When I was confronted by some issues in a previous church, I was caught off guard and took me awhile to figure things out. Spiritual tyranny is alive and well in today's churches and I didn't even know it until a few years ago.And I thought of myself as well informed. Darn! Lydia
I believe that everybody in every church should be aware of the basics of spiritual tyranny. I had been a member in some great churches with wonderful pastors. When I was confronted by some issues in a previous church, I was caught off guard and took me awhile to figure things out. Spiritual tyranny is alive and well in today’s churches and I didn’t even know it until a few years ago.And I thought of myself as well informed. Darn!

]]> By: dee http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/04/08/t4g-bookstore-%e2%80%93-check-it-out/#comment-2878 dee Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:55:45 +0000 http://thewartburgwatch.com/?p=1212#comment-2878 Lydia We want to look into this matter with Peacemakers a little more. It does seem that they are "pastorcentric". Lydia
We want to look into this matter with Peacemakers a little more. It does seem that they are “pastorcentric”.

]]> By: Lydia http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/04/08/t4g-bookstore-%e2%80%93-check-it-out/#comment-2870 Lydia Mon, 12 Apr 2010 02:52:38 +0000 http://thewartburgwatch.com/?p=1212#comment-2870 BTW: I know several folks who have been treated very unfairly by Peacemakers who seem to always side with the authority. They get donations from 'churches' so they might be unbiased. BTW: I know several folks who have been treated very unfairly by Peacemakers who seem to always side with the authority.

They get donations from ‘churches’ so they might be unbiased.

]]> By: Lydia http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/04/08/t4g-bookstore-%e2%80%93-check-it-out/#comment-2869 Lydia Mon, 12 Apr 2010 02:50:46 +0000 http://thewartburgwatch.com/?p=1212#comment-2869 This might explain the rambling stream of consciousness writing of a parent in such a situation many years later: The Event of a Tyrannized Life The hardest part of talking about any experience of social or spiritual oppression is it is an EVENT that takes place around some of the most personal stuff. By EVENT I mean a longstanding progression of interaction. There is never a single moment, one deciding action where the victim can point and say: “Yup, right there. That is the bad thing I’m talking about.” And very often, the victim does not know how much they are being taken advantage of. Or even more insidious: they are told the exploitation is God-intended and God-inspired. The abuse and tyranny occur largely in private about things most folk would like to keep private. To get the conflict, you need the details—often embarrassing details. While most people find the details of their life interesting, everybody else finds them tedious or scandalous. So, how do you tell a story that has lots of UGLY, lots of NECESSARY, but oh so boring details? The answer is, like you tell all stories that need to be told so that justice and righteousness can prevail. This is a must. It is a dirty, painful path to walk, but it must come forth so that you can be vindicated and that others can gain perspective and empowerment from your experience. There are many just like yourself who are desperately hoping someone out there is like them; that they are not crazy. Help them by telling your story. When you get to THE END, I am confident that you will be better for it HT http://spiritualtyranny.com/ This might explain the rambling stream of consciousness writing of a parent in such a situation many years later:

The Event of a Tyrannized Life

The hardest part of talking about any experience of social or spiritual oppression is it is an EVENT that takes place around some of the most personal stuff. By EVENT I mean a longstanding progression of interaction. There is never a single moment, one deciding action where the victim can point and say: “Yup, right there. That is the bad thing I’m talking about.”

And very often, the victim does not know how much they are being taken advantage of. Or even more insidious: they are told the exploitation is God-intended and God-inspired.

The abuse and tyranny occur largely in private about things most folk would like to keep private. To get the conflict, you need the details—often embarrassing details. While most people find the details of their life interesting, everybody else finds them tedious or scandalous. So, how do you tell a story that has lots of UGLY, lots of NECESSARY, but oh so boring details?

The answer is, like you tell all stories that need to be told so that justice and righteousness can prevail. This is a must. It is a dirty, painful path to walk, but it must come forth so that you can be vindicated and that others can gain perspective and empowerment from your experience. There are many just like yourself who are desperately hoping someone out there is like them; that they are not crazy.

Help them by telling your story. When you get to THE END, I am confident that you will be better for it

HT http://spiritualtyranny.com/

]]> By: Lydia http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/04/08/t4g-bookstore-%e2%80%93-check-it-out/#comment-2868 Lydia Mon, 12 Apr 2010 02:42:53 +0000 http://thewartburgwatch.com/?p=1212#comment-2868 Piper has been all over the map as an apologist for Driscoll and now inviting Warren to give the keynote speech at desiringGod.Warren! The same Warren that told Muslims we pray to the same God. The..same Warren who took PDL to Synagogue 2000, the same Warren who told us the Syrian president told him the Christians there are not persecuted in any way and weshould believe him, the same Warren of the PEACE plan and the notriously doctrinal error called PDL. Piper? No credibility. Piper has been all over the map as an apologist for Driscoll and now inviting Warren to give the keynote speech at desiringGod.Warren! The same Warren that told Muslims we pray to the same God. The..same Warren who took PDL to Synagogue 2000, the same Warren who told us the Syrian president told him the Christians there are not persecuted in any way and weshould believe him, the same Warren of the PEACE plan and the notriously doctrinal error called PDL.

Piper? No credibility.

]]> By: Annonymous http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/04/08/t4g-bookstore-%e2%80%93-check-it-out/#comment-2867 Annonymous Mon, 12 Apr 2010 02:32:26 +0000 http://thewartburgwatch.com/?p=1212#comment-2867 I was merely being descriptive of the narrative that I found. I am not criticizing this woman or her experience. Her writing style was sort of a stream of consciousness style that was hard to follow. That's why I said it was rambling. I would not have responded to Peacemakers. I am surprised the woman did. I was merely being descriptive of the narrative that I found. I am not criticizing this woman or her experience. Her writing style was sort of a stream of consciousness style that was hard to follow. That’s why I said it was rambling.

I would not have responded to Peacemakers. I am surprised the woman did.

]]> By: Dee http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/04/08/t4g-bookstore-%e2%80%93-check-it-out/#comment-2866 Dee Mon, 12 Apr 2010 02:06:35 +0000 http://thewartburgwatch.com/?p=1212#comment-2866 As for rambling, can you imagine how hard it is to tell a story about your child being molested? I would be a blathering idiot! Rambling and disjointed makes it seem more real, heartfelt as opposed to a cold, careful, rehearsed recounting. As for rambling, can you imagine how hard it is to tell a story about your child being molested? I would be a blathering idiot! Rambling and disjointed makes it seem more real, heartfelt as opposed to a cold, careful, rehearsed recounting.

]]> By: Dee http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/04/08/t4g-bookstore-%e2%80%93-check-it-out/#comment-2865 Dee Mon, 12 Apr 2010 01:50:50 +0000 http://thewartburgwatch.com/?p=1212#comment-2865 Oh that Mahaney were a leader that believed "The buck stops here." He is the puppet master. He comes out of the abusive shepherding movement and learned his lessons well.He just keeps changing the names to stay ahead of the issues. Egads, why do those like Piper who seem rather normal tolerate this stuff???? Are they blind??? Oh that Mahaney were a leader that believed “The buck stops here.” He is the puppet master. He comes out of the abusive shepherding movement and learned his lessons well.He just keeps changing the names to stay ahead of the issues. Egads, why do those like Piper who seem rather normal tolerate this stuff???? Are they blind???

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