I find your comment fascinating. TWW has been suspicious that TT and those of his ilk use churches as a cash base for their own (non church) ministries. They get paid, often very well, and then they go on to make money in their real full time jobs as “speakers”

Our question to the churches that allow this is simple. Do you want a full time pastor or a celebrity wannabe? Look at Ed Young Jr.’s church in Texas. he gives sermons and then claims he fully owns them and repackages them and sells them through some dummy corporation. IMHO, the church owns the sermons if they were developed for sermons for the church.

Once again TWW extends our condolences to you all and your truly awful situation.

What has happened seems appears unjust. TT appears to be like another ho hum authoritarian pastor trading on the family name. May God convict him and others who are encouraging this strange way to follow our Lord.Our prayers are with you.

Your comment really breaks my heart! So many Christians connected to CRPC have been needlessly hurt because of a power play. Please know that Dee and I are praying for God’s truth to be revealed. May His will be done!

I like the comparison to Rome. Deb and I have discussed this. Remember when the Israelites got tired of God being their king and they asked for an earthly king? God said He would give them one but that they would not like having that sort of king. Well, I guess we still have kings in America. They are the new pastors who rule with an iron fist and a misguided notion that they really have a mandate from God to rule their little fiefdoms- admirals in rowboats. I just saw Alice in Wonderland. The Red Queen with her huge head was a wonderful portrayal of the inflated egos of some of these folks.
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They have what I call a ‘state/church” mentality. Their ‘office’ gives them a pass. They are specially anointed because of their office which is only a man conferred title. See, God would not allow them to have the “office” they hold if they were not “chosen” by Him.

Problem is, there is NO OFFICE in the New Covenant Body. That word was added by the KJ translators laboring under a church/state mentality.

There are only functions in the Body of Christ. Elders would be the most humble and spiritually mature. True believers recognize a TRUE elder. And they would flock to him/her. In the Word, we see elders “appointed”. The Greek for that word means “hand stretching” as in voting.

TRUE Elders would eschew fame and weath and be the lowliest servants. They would recognize that the only authority in the Body is Jesus Christ and the Word. They would model spiritual maturity for others.

All, if saved, are gifted by the Holy Spirit in the priesthood to edify the Body.

Basically what these wolves are doing is going the way of Rome. With little popes, cardinals, etc. They have been ensnared by the sin of wanting authority over others.

This is a VERY TYPICAL tactic..mainly used in mega’s because they can hide it better and the staffers are trained not to ask pointed questions about anyone. And, keep in mind, because churches are not liable for any labor laws, they can do as they please and they most certainly do just that! Some wil make them sign non disclosure statements with the severence so they can say the person has no integrity if they talk AFTER getting the full severence.

Also, keep in mind that most churches are not in the unemployment system so a staffer cannot even apply for unemployment. So, leaving becomes a financial crisis for their family.

The cruelty in these actions is astounding that it goes on in Christian circles. It is not the exception friends…it happens all the time. I know many who have been ruined because they would not go along with whatever the leadership demanded or they DARED express disagreement.

I pray folks will understand that they are NOT dealing with Christians. They are dealing with CEO’s and Executives of organizations who peddle the Gospel for fame and wealth. Get out. Time is short. And most of all, do NOT enable this sinning with your support.

Christian brothers and sisters do NOT harm other Christian brothers and sisters. Always remember that.

Thank you so much for your input. We have been trying to get more information on the events leading up to the TNPC. We had heard about the strong arm tactics involved in the resignation of pastors. We hope that our post also helps all of you to see that you were not just having conflict with TT.You are having conflict due the tactics of the Calvinistas. Please understand: we are NOT talking about Calvinists. We are talking about a group of authoritarian individuals who want to radically change church polity.

We have a couple of questions regarding CRPC and TT.Do you know anyone who has answers to them?

1.How many people actually attend services at CRPC? We are not interested in the membership numbers. Only the actual attendance.Did this number change after the conflict heated up?
2. Did TT reveal his association with hyperCalvinist crowd prior to his hire?
3.Did anyone question him on his style of leadership? In other words, did anyone suspect that he would ignore the input from the congregation?

Our hearts go out to those caught in this unexpected situation. Weirdness ensued at a previous church that one of us attended. Lo and behold, the weirdness began when the pastors got involved with these hardcore hyperCalvinists. They are impossible to deal with.

They believe that all nonpastors are awful sinners and therefore can have very little input because of this sin problem. However, they claim they are sinners as well but somehow get a “pass” from God and can make these decisions free from sin. There is an excellent book called “The Subtle Tyranny of Spiritual Abuse.” You guys appear to be victims of the new style of spiritual abuse.

Our hearts go out to you. But understand. You are not alone. This is going on all over the country and our blog is outlining these church conflicts. Our archives will transfer soon and you can read of the other churches who are caught up in the same mess.