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		<title>By: dee</title>
		<link>http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/03/03/hank-hanegraaff-and-my-confusion/#comment-9584</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Israel

Could you please list the names of the guys he has called heretics so I can better respond?</description>
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<p>Could you please list the names of the guys he has called heretics so I can better respond?</p>
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		<title>By: dee</title>
		<link>http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/03/03/hank-hanegraaff-and-my-confusion/#comment-9580</link>
		<dc:creator>dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Israel
Thank you for your thoughtful words. Here is where I stand. I believe that many of today&#039;s prosperity preachers are promoting a Jesus that doesn&#039;t exist. In fact, when people tell me that they follow Jesus, I often ask them, &quot;Which Jesus? Please tell me about him.&quot; When Joel Osteen proclaims that Mormons are Christians, I realize that he doesn&#039;t understand the essential Gospel. Because of this, I believe that Osteen has gone off reservation.

There is a big difference when one talks about politcal involvement, Reformed theology, SBC theology, baptism, eschatology. here are differences within these groups in which we can agree to disagree because the Bible is no patently clear on some of these subjects.

But when people like Benny HInn prophecy the death of Castro in the early part of the 2000s and it does not happen, he is , by definition, a false prophet. When he states that Jesus will be physically appearing with him on  the stage in Kenya and He doesn&#039;t, Hinn is a false prophet.

The Bible states that there are wolves in sheep&#039;s clothing and that we are to identify them. HH is doing that. I would love to understand which people you have in mind when you condemn his pronouncements. It is much easier to speak specifically than in generalities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israel<br />
Thank you for your thoughtful words. Here is where I stand. I believe that many of today&#8217;s prosperity preachers are promoting a Jesus that doesn&#8217;t exist. In fact, when people tell me that they follow Jesus, I often ask them, &#8220;Which Jesus? Please tell me about him.&#8221; When Joel Osteen proclaims that Mormons are Christians, I realize that he doesn&#8217;t understand the essential Gospel. Because of this, I believe that Osteen has gone off reservation.</p>
<p>There is a big difference when one talks about politcal involvement, Reformed theology, SBC theology, baptism, eschatology. here are differences within these groups in which we can agree to disagree because the Bible is no patently clear on some of these subjects.</p>
<p>But when people like Benny HInn prophecy the death of Castro in the early part of the 2000s and it does not happen, he is , by definition, a false prophet. When he states that Jesus will be physically appearing with him on  the stage in Kenya and He doesn&#8217;t, Hinn is a false prophet.</p>
<p>The Bible states that there are wolves in sheep&#8217;s clothing and that we are to identify them. HH is doing that. I would love to understand which people you have in mind when you condemn his pronouncements. It is much easier to speak specifically than in generalities.</p>
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		<title>By: Israel</title>
		<link>http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/03/03/hank-hanegraaff-and-my-confusion/#comment-9550</link>
		<dc:creator>Israel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I see nothing wrong of a leader questioning another leaders excesses, indiscretions, theology etc. but to classify one has an heretic, a non-believer because of scriptural error is above and beyond the call of duty.&quot;

I say scriptural error to mean basic christian doctrines; not error in who is our savior and the only savior, what he died for, that he&#039;s resurrected and seated on the right of the father and that he&#039;s coming back again. No room for error with these.

These men and women Hanegraaff malign holds to the foundation of the Christian faith, with the exception of one I know of and that is Carlton Pearson. 

Pearson with his &quot;gospel of Inclusion&quot; believes everybody is already forgiven thereby nobody goes to hell irrespective of how one lives, including other religions. And on top of that he believes satan can be saved if he repents. This of-course is heresy, and he has built a ministry around this premise. 

I would consider Carlton a heretic for basing this whole idea of his on a dream or vision he had, and not allowing his peers in ministry to adequately critique his premise before he went public with it. 

His peers, a number of them in leadership agreed together and had already declared him a heretic and rightfully so. It wasn&#039;t one man and his friend finding fault and then call Carlton a Heretic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I see nothing wrong of a leader questioning another leaders excesses, indiscretions, theology etc. but to classify one has an heretic, a non-believer because of scriptural error is above and beyond the call of duty.&#8221;</p>
<p>I say scriptural error to mean basic christian doctrines; not error in who is our savior and the only savior, what he died for, that he&#8217;s resurrected and seated on the right of the father and that he&#8217;s coming back again. No room for error with these.</p>
<p>These men and women Hanegraaff malign holds to the foundation of the Christian faith, with the exception of one I know of and that is Carlton Pearson. </p>
<p>Pearson with his &#8220;gospel of Inclusion&#8221; believes everybody is already forgiven thereby nobody goes to hell irrespective of how one lives, including other religions. And on top of that he believes satan can be saved if he repents. This of-course is heresy, and he has built a ministry around this premise. </p>
<p>I would consider Carlton a heretic for basing this whole idea of his on a dream or vision he had, and not allowing his peers in ministry to adequately critique his premise before he went public with it. </p>
<p>His peers, a number of them in leadership agreed together and had already declared him a heretic and rightfully so. It wasn&#8217;t one man and his friend finding fault and then call Carlton a Heretic.</p>
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		<title>By: Israel</title>
		<link>http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/03/03/hank-hanegraaff-and-my-confusion/#comment-9545</link>
		<dc:creator>Israel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dee,
    Gullible, is what I describe those who fell for Hanegraaff&#039;s work. Hanegraaf&#039;s work essentially is about bringing railing accusations against Christian leaders -and i&#039;m not saying these leaders he spoke of are all correct in their theology or, are they beyond criticism.

The scripture teaches; Galatians 6:
 1.Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. 

 2.Bear ye one another&#039;s burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ. 

The gist of anything we do concerning any bro/sis in the Lord who has a fault, whatever it may be is to restore them. Not to try them in the arena of public life, find them guilty and throw them under the bus. Relegating them to heretic status and other names of demise.

Is this what Hanegraaff calls being your brother&#039;s keeper? I guess Hansgraaff assuage himself of these leaders being true Christians hence not a brother or sister in the Lord.

I&#039;m black, I support James Kennedy&#039;s ministry financially before his passing, and I&#039;m not of his denomination. I do not agree with some of the ways they conduct themselves in the political arena, and I disagree with some of his theology. So why do I support him? 

The bottom line is he his a believer, a follower of Christ; that is first and foremost. Who am I to question is belief in the Lord Jesus Christ, whom he has not deny, just because I see error in his teachings and practices?

These men Hanegraaff denigrates none of them has denied the Lord; even the ones that divorced their wives for unscrptural reasons. (by the way divorce is not the unpardonable sin, nevertheless it stymied ones credibility in the eyes of the people, so it should be avoided at all cost).

I see nothing wrong of a leader questioning another leaders excesses, indiscretions, theology etc. but to classify one has an heretic, a non-believer because of scriptural error is above and beyond the call of duty.

Scriptural perrogative toward the fallen or those taken in a fault is to restore; not to condemn and destroy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dee,<br />
    Gullible, is what I describe those who fell for Hanegraaff&#8217;s work. Hanegraaf&#8217;s work essentially is about bringing railing accusations against Christian leaders -and i&#8217;m not saying these leaders he spoke of are all correct in their theology or, are they beyond criticism.</p>
<p>The scripture teaches; Galatians 6:<br />
 1.Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. </p>
<p> 2.Bear ye one another&#8217;s burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ. </p>
<p>The gist of anything we do concerning any bro/sis in the Lord who has a fault, whatever it may be is to restore them. Not to try them in the arena of public life, find them guilty and throw them under the bus. Relegating them to heretic status and other names of demise.</p>
<p>Is this what Hanegraaff calls being your brother&#8217;s keeper? I guess Hansgraaff assuage himself of these leaders being true Christians hence not a brother or sister in the Lord.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m black, I support James Kennedy&#8217;s ministry financially before his passing, and I&#8217;m not of his denomination. I do not agree with some of the ways they conduct themselves in the political arena, and I disagree with some of his theology. So why do I support him? </p>
<p>The bottom line is he his a believer, a follower of Christ; that is first and foremost. Who am I to question is belief in the Lord Jesus Christ, whom he has not deny, just because I see error in his teachings and practices?</p>
<p>These men Hanegraaff denigrates none of them has denied the Lord; even the ones that divorced their wives for unscrptural reasons. (by the way divorce is not the unpardonable sin, nevertheless it stymied ones credibility in the eyes of the people, so it should be avoided at all cost).</p>
<p>I see nothing wrong of a leader questioning another leaders excesses, indiscretions, theology etc. but to classify one has an heretic, a non-believer because of scriptural error is above and beyond the call of duty.</p>
<p>Scriptural perrogative toward the fallen or those taken in a fault is to restore; not to condemn and destroy.</p>
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		<title>By: dee</title>
		<link>http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/03/03/hank-hanegraaff-and-my-confusion/#comment-9114</link>
		<dc:creator>dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 17:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, wow! The whole book is there. I cannot wait to read it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, wow! The whole book is there. I cannot wait to read it.</p>
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		<title>By: dee</title>
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		<dc:creator>dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 17:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am on my way to buy it now. Thank you for remembering me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am on my way to buy it now. Thank you for remembering me.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindee Martin Morgan</title>
		<link>http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/03/03/hank-hanegraaff-and-my-confusion/#comment-9046</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindee Martin Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 03:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dee,

Just want to make you aware of Elliot Miller&#039;s new book, &quot;Breaking The Silence...&quot; It is CRI&#039;s response to the ongoing false accusations made against Hank Hanegraaff and CRI. Rick and I have participated in this response. Elliot&#039;s book is available, free of charge, on our www.WalterMartinJude3.com website. The Lord bless you.

In His Service,

Cindee Martin Morgan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dee,</p>
<p>Just want to make you aware of Elliot Miller&#8217;s new book, &#8220;Breaking The Silence&#8230;&#8221; It is CRI&#8217;s response to the ongoing false accusations made against Hank Hanegraaff and CRI. Rick and I have participated in this response. Elliot&#8217;s book is available, free of charge, on our <a href="http://www.WalterMartinJude3.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.WalterMartinJude3.com</a> website. The Lord bless you.</p>
<p>In His Service,</p>
<p>Cindee Martin Morgan</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/03/03/hank-hanegraaff-and-my-confusion/#comment-7153</link>
		<dc:creator>Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 23:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cindee,

Thanks for the update.  I will keep this matter in my prayers.  May God&#039;s truth pervail.</description>
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<p>Thanks for the update.  I will keep this matter in my prayers.  May God&#8217;s truth pervail.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindee Martin Morgan</title>
		<link>http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/03/03/hank-hanegraaff-and-my-confusion/#comment-7090</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindee Martin Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 22:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Does any one of you, when he﻿ has a case against his﻿ neighbor, dare to go﻿ to﻿ law before the unrighteous,﻿ and not before the﻿ saints? ...And﻿ if the world is judged by you, are﻿ you not competent to constitute the smallest law courts? Do you﻿ not know﻿ that﻿ we shall judge angels? How much more, matters of this﻿ life?﻿ If then you have law courts﻿ dealing﻿ with matters of this﻿ life,﻿ do you appoint them as﻿ judges﻿ who are of﻿ no﻿ account in the church? I say this to﻿ your shame. Is it so, that there is on among you one﻿ wise﻿ man who will be able to decide between his brethren, but brother goes to law﻿ with brother, and that before unbelievers? Actually, then, it is already﻿ a defeat﻿ for you, that you have lawsuits with one another.﻿ Why not rather be wronged? Why﻿ not rather be defrauded? On the contrary, you yourselves wrong and defraud, and that﻿ your brethren.&quot; I Cor. 6:1-8</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Does any one of you, when he﻿ has a case against his﻿ neighbor, dare to go﻿ to﻿ law before the unrighteous,﻿ and not before the﻿ saints? &#8230;And﻿ if the world is judged by you, are﻿ you not competent to constitute the smallest law courts? Do you﻿ not know﻿ that﻿ we shall judge angels? How much more, matters of this﻿ life?﻿ If then you have law courts﻿ dealing﻿ with matters of this﻿ life,﻿ do you appoint them as﻿ judges﻿ who are of﻿ no﻿ account in the church? I say this to﻿ your shame. Is it so, that there is on among you one﻿ wise﻿ man who will be able to decide between his brethren, but brother goes to law﻿ with brother, and that before unbelievers? Actually, then, it is already﻿ a defeat﻿ for you, that you have lawsuits with one another.﻿ Why not rather be wronged? Why﻿ not rather be defrauded? On the contrary, you yourselves wrong and defraud, and that﻿ your brethren.&#8221; I Cor. 6:1-8</p>
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		<title>By: Cindee Martin Morgan</title>
		<link>http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/03/03/hank-hanegraaff-and-my-confusion/#comment-7089</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindee Martin Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 22:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prayer Request: 

I am grieved to﻿ share that the lawsuit filed by my step-Mom,﻿ Darlene Martin, against us and CRI has﻿ been recently served. Please﻿ pray for CRI, Hank Hanegraaff and for us. Also,﻿ please pray Darlene and my sister Jill Martin Rische(her agent), will heed I Corinthians 6:1-8. It is wrong they have repeatedly and publicly filed copyright infringement claims against us for posting brief clips of my father, Walter Martin. It is biblically wrong they seek our harm in court over this matter. It is also wrong Darlene is now adding the charge of &quot;libel&quot; because we have responded to these claims against us by speaking the truth and excercising our right of free speech. Please encourage Darlene/Jill﻿﻿ to obey the Lord. Please also find us on YT and Facebook. Please pray that truth will triumph for the battle IS the Lord&#039;s. God bless.

In His Service,

Cindee Martin Morgan
www.WalterMartinJude3.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prayer Request: </p>
<p>I am grieved to﻿ share that the lawsuit filed by my step-Mom,﻿ Darlene Martin, against us and CRI has﻿ been recently served. Please﻿ pray for CRI, Hank Hanegraaff and for us. Also,﻿ please pray Darlene and my sister Jill Martin Rische(her agent), will heed I Corinthians 6:1-8. It is wrong they have repeatedly and publicly filed copyright infringement claims against us for posting brief clips of my father, Walter Martin. It is biblically wrong they seek our harm in court over this matter. It is also wrong Darlene is now adding the charge of &#8220;libel&#8221; because we have responded to these claims against us by speaking the truth and excercising our right of free speech. Please encourage Darlene/Jill﻿﻿ to obey the Lord. Please also find us on YT and Facebook. Please pray that truth will triumph for the battle IS the Lord&#8217;s. God bless.</p>
<p>In His Service,</p>
<p>Cindee Martin Morgan<br />
<a href="http://www.WalterMartinJude3.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.WalterMartinJude3.com</a></p>
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