Thanks.. Have already enjoyed reading and trying to digest various articles.
Sent the link to some friends on both sides of the ‘pond’

George

We’re so glad you found us! Dee and I have known each other for close to a decade, and we have had many deep spiritual discussions over the years. Instead of keeping our theological concerns to ourselves, we decided to go public which happened in March 2009.

The more we discover about what’s really going on within Christendom, the more concerned we are becoming. We feel a tremendous burden to alert our brothers and sisters in Christ to some dangerous trends we are detecting.

Hope you will feel free to comment often. I believe you will find our readers to be highly intellectual and extremely serious about their faith.

Blessings!

I started to question my gender beliefs after reading such scholars as Gordon Fee and FF Bruce so I know what you feel about someone like Corrie Ten Boom.
However as I have previously noted, the problem with having different interpretations on Gender and Eschatological positions,is that if you do,the first thing that is questioned is ones belief in Scripture.
My response has and continues to be, that while all Scripture is inerrant, inerrancy does not extend to interpretation.

BTW- MLJ passed away on St.Davids day in 1981. great timing for a Welshman dont you think.

Thanks Dee, for yr thought and comments. I think I am going to like this site and will follow it with great interest.

I am with you. There should be a wide variety of books from a wide variety of thought within orthodox Christianity. I remember seeing Corrie Ten Boom speak at Park St Church in Boston years ago. This tiny woman taught me much about love, forgiveness and pain. Her book, The Hiding Place, would not be found in a SGM bookstore. She would not be allowed to speak because she is a woman. Yet she influenced the world in a profound way. Instead, women are told to read the inane blog, Girl Talk, which talks about things like decorating tables with infested pine cones.(a true entry-we keep an eye on that one).Park Street was really big on reading widely and historically as well.

BTW, I read books by those I disagree with. We reviewed CJ Mahaney’s The Cross Centered Life on the blog. Didn’t much like it but read it. I am currently reading through a stack of old Christian History Magazines that were well researched.

As for books with various thoughts on secondary issues, there are some great ones on creationism, eschatology, and so forth. They go by such titles as Three View on Creation, etc. I love reading those since they give a lot of information in a handy book.

This Sunday, my husband and I are showing a DVD of a debate between a premil/pretrib professor and a partial preterist professor. Its funny. The longer that I am a Christian, the more I question some of my presuppositions. Not the essentials, mind you. But things like a pretrib rapture , etc. I can’t wait to see Him face to face so I can ask a whole bunch of questions.

Well, I am rambling and need to get to bed. I envy you for having heard the great MLJ. Didn’t he pass away sometime in the early 80s? You say that you are a pastor. May God bless you in your ministry.

More education is fine, yet surely just as important is HOW we educate The ability to absorb, change, and re-direct is something that comes only with experience,but we should stress the importance of constant revaluation of our Theology.
I am amazed how that secondary issues such as Gender,Eschatology,and yes even Creationism assume such importance and often the slightest deviation from stated positions are seen in terms of ones committment to Scripture.

Some valuable advice given to me early on was to read,read,and read and go as wide as you can in subject without surrendering the foundations of your faith.

I am surprised how few books are recommended from our pulpits.
Is it because we are so unsure of our positions that we dont encourage our fellow Evangelicals to read and compare with Scripture other approaches to these secondary matters

Dee, this is what I glean from Mark Nolls writings, an encouragement to learn more and to be able and willing to examine what we believe

First, thank you so much for your kindness.Welcome!!

Secondly, I am a bit embarrassed by my response yesterday.I had driven 9 hours and had been up to the wee hours the night before. I missed a most significant point.

Martin Lloyd Jones was an incredible person.He did get higher education. He trained as a physician. Anyone who goes through the rigors of such training developed an understanding of human nature that few outside the profession can acquire. One deals with death and dying, the problem of pain, sinful behavior that leads to illness (such as alcoholism) , family conflict, how to treat the whole person(body and soul) and on and on.

I used to practice nursing,my daughter, who unexpectedly recuperated from a malignant brain tumor, is studying nursing, I am married to a doctor and am the daughter and sister of doctors.Medicine gets one into peoples lives in an incredibly intimate way. Besides treatment, most of the time of health professionals is dealing with “life” issues. In fact, my guess is that medical training would be a perfect “seminary” for future preachers.

As for you comment about “untraining”couldn’t be more than true. One of my current pastors has come to disagree with some of the things he was taught at Dallas Theological Seminary in regards to creationism and eschatology.

So,I fullt agree with you. But I am still in favor of more education rather than less.

I hope to get the rest of our archives transferred this week. We used to have a limited format and changed out blog around Christmas. We also plan to have a page that tells more about us along with some TWW terminology.

Discovered your blog today and found it very thought provoking..[Cant ever remembering blogging before today!]
Yes I have read Mark Noll’s book and it was so refreshing and timely.

My remarks about MLJ was not meant to undermine your argument but to do exactly what you pointed out,to illustrate that there are exceptions to the rule.
Its been some time since reading Mark Noll’s book and I may not be doing him justice,but surely his point was to encourage and to develop any gift to the fullest in the pursuit of learning,while not disparaging those whose intellectual ability had limitations. Education is better every time than nothing at all,but education of the Christian mind should not be limited to seminary education but should be as wide as possible and is not static but ever growing. Education of the Christian mind is an ongoing process that expands way beyond seminary training and in some cases the mind needs to be untrained following such education

George