Comments on: C.J. MAHANEY AND SIN: He uses a period instead of a semicolon http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/02/08/c-j-mahaney-and-sin-he-uses-a-period-instead-of-a-semicolon/ Dissecting Christian trends. Posting Monday,Wednesday, Thursday and Friday Mon, 21 May 2012 16:01:01 -0400 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Deb http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/02/08/c-j-mahaney-and-sin-he-uses-a-period-instead-of-a-semicolon/#comment-3468 Deb Tue, 11 May 2010 11:02:36 +0000 http://thewartburgwatch.com/?p=526#comment-3468 Bobby, I appreciate your comment, even though I disagree. Guess what... The "worst of sinners" label isn't OUR accusation against C.J. Mahaney. We are simply repeating this often used description that he assigns himself. Just Google "worst of sinners" and C.J. Mahaney, and see what comes up. Bobby,

I appreciate your comment, even though I disagree.

Guess what… The “worst of sinners” label isn’t OUR accusation against C.J. Mahaney. We are simply repeating this often used description that he assigns himself.

Just Google “worst of sinners” and C.J. Mahaney, and see what comes up.

]]> By: Deb http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/02/08/c-j-mahaney-and-sin-he-uses-a-period-instead-of-a-semicolon/#comment-3465 Deb Tue, 11 May 2010 10:21:25 +0000 http://thewartburgwatch.com/?p=526#comment-3465 Excellent points! Apparently, Bobby believes it is YOU and ME who are being "divisive" simply because we are discussing these destructive issues within Christendom. If I know about "sin in the camp" and don't address it, I believe God will hold me accountable for remaining silent. Fortunately, my conscience is clear with regard to all the serious matters we have discussed here at TWW. Excellent points!

Apparently, Bobby believes it is YOU and ME who are being “divisive” simply because we are discussing these destructive issues within Christendom.

If I know about “sin in the camp” and don’t address it, I believe God will hold me accountable for remaining silent. Fortunately, my conscience is clear with regard to all the serious matters we have discussed here at TWW.

]]> By: dee http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/02/08/c-j-mahaney-and-sin-he-uses-a-period-instead-of-a-semicolon/#comment-3452 dee Tue, 11 May 2010 04:15:16 +0000 http://thewartburgwatch.com/?p=526#comment-3452 Hey Deb If a ministry abuses its folks, and it doesn't get out that this is happening, does this mean they are glorifying God by keeping the abuse quiet? If Reckers is secretly committing homosexual acts, and it doesn't get out into the press, is he glorifying God? Does keeping knowledge of pedophilia quiet, glorify God? Or, does God want what is in darkness to be brought into the light so that healing will occur and then God will be given the glory? Isn't God's glory shown in our weakness? I like the title of Doug Pittman's former blog, Purify the Church. How does this happen? By shining the light. Enough darkness, I say! Hey Deb

If a ministry abuses its folks, and it doesn’t get out that this is happening, does this mean they are glorifying God by keeping the abuse quiet?

If Reckers is secretly committing homosexual acts, and it doesn’t get out into the press, is he glorifying God?

Does keeping knowledge of pedophilia quiet, glorify God?

Or, does God want what is in darkness to be brought into the light so that healing will occur and then God will be given the glory?

Isn’t God’s glory shown in our weakness?

I like the title of Doug Pittman’s former blog, Purify the Church. How does this happen? By shining the light. Enough darkness, I say!

]]> By: Deb http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/02/08/c-j-mahaney-and-sin-he-uses-a-period-instead-of-a-semicolon/#comment-3448 Deb Tue, 11 May 2010 02:25:37 +0000 http://thewartburgwatch.com/?p=526#comment-3448 Bobby, Since you admitted that you don't know much about C.J. Mahaney, I recommend that you start educating yourself by reading the post at this link: http://sgmrefuge.com/2010/05/07/man-instead-of-god/ The SGM Refuge blog is run by Jim, who used to be a Care Group Leader (CGL) in SGM. Love those acronyms! The post at this link is written by Jim's friend who goes by the moniker "Protestant Knight". Dee and I have spent almost two years sifting through information on these two websites. After you check out SGM Refuge and SGM Survivors, we encourage you to come back to TWW and dialogue with us. Until then, your commentary is really pointless. Ignorance is definitely not bliss when it comes to Sovereign Grace Ministries and C.J. Mahaney. I can assure you, we are not slanderers. Our mission is to warn the flock against what we have discovered to be an abusive ministry (SGM), as God commands in His Holy Word. Bobby,

Since you admitted that you don’t know much about C.J. Mahaney, I recommend that you start educating yourself by reading the post at this link:

http://sgmrefuge.com/2010/05/07/man-instead-of-god/

The SGM Refuge blog is run by Jim, who used to be a Care Group Leader (CGL) in SGM. Love those acronyms! The post at this link is written by Jim’s friend who goes by the moniker “Protestant Knight”.

Dee and I have spent almost two years sifting through information on these two websites. After you check out SGM Refuge and SGM Survivors, we encourage you to come back to TWW and dialogue with us. Until then, your commentary is really pointless. Ignorance is definitely not bliss when it comes to Sovereign Grace Ministries and C.J. Mahaney.

I can assure you, we are not slanderers. Our mission is to warn the flock against what we have discovered to be an abusive ministry (SGM), as God commands in His Holy Word.

]]> By: dee http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/02/08/c-j-mahaney-and-sin-he-uses-a-period-instead-of-a-semicolon/#comment-3446 dee Tue, 11 May 2010 01:41:44 +0000 http://thewartburgwatch.com/?p=526#comment-3446 Bobby Oh dear. You obviously know nothing about Mahaney. We are posting our archives and we, and others, have plenty of proof for what we say. It is a hallmark of this site. Mahaney is the one who is accused of harming lots of people by his "family of churches." We are warning the faithful.And that will bring glory to God by preventing people from being harmed by being abused. Many of the abused leave the faith or turn their back on the church. Please visit sgmsurvivors.com for further discussion. Be very careful with the word, "slander." Do you know the definition of the word? We do and we don't. Please keep reading so that you will understand the reasons behind what we say. Jesus told us to be wary of those who might lead others astray.Just doing our part. Blessings and thanks for commenting. Bobby
Oh dear. You obviously know nothing about Mahaney. We are posting our archives and we, and others, have plenty of proof for what we say. It is a hallmark of this site.

Mahaney is the one who is accused of harming lots of people by his “family of churches.” We are warning the faithful.And that will bring glory to God by preventing people from being harmed by being abused. Many of the abused leave the faith or turn their back on the church. Please visit sgmsurvivors.com for further discussion.

Be very careful with the word, “slander.” Do you know the definition of the word? We do and we don’t. Please keep reading so that you will understand the reasons behind what we say. Jesus told us to be wary of those who might lead others astray.Just doing our part.

Blessings and thanks for commenting.

]]> By: Bobby http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/02/08/c-j-mahaney-and-sin-he-uses-a-period-instead-of-a-semicolon/#comment-3444 Bobby Tue, 11 May 2010 01:04:56 +0000 http://thewartburgwatch.com/?p=526#comment-3444 This clip does not have any of the phrases that you accuse Mr. Mahaney of: "head apostle" or "worst of sinners." I am confused as to why you are spending so much energy subverting someone instead of encouraging love and oneness as Jesus wanted (John 17). I am not a member of Mr. Mahaney's church. I barely know anything about him, and I know nothing about you, but this is a very passionate, accusatory, divisive blog, and it hurts to see the Church slander each other. What good are you doing? God expects His glory to come from the Church and from Jesus Christ, and if you're not bringing Him glory with what you write, you should probably keep your hands off of the keyboard. This clip does not have any of the phrases that you accuse Mr. Mahaney of: “head apostle” or “worst of sinners.” I am confused as to why you are spending so much energy subverting someone instead of encouraging love and oneness as Jesus wanted (John 17).
I am not a member of Mr. Mahaney’s church. I barely know anything about him, and I know nothing about you, but this is a very passionate, accusatory, divisive blog, and it hurts to see the Church slander each other. What good are you doing? God expects His glory to come from the Church and from Jesus Christ, and if you’re not bringing Him glory with what you write, you should probably keep your hands off of the keyboard.

]]> By: Lydia http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/02/08/c-j-mahaney-and-sin-he-uses-a-period-instead-of-a-semicolon/#comment-330 Lydia Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:53:14 +0000 http://thewartburgwatch.com/?p=526#comment-330 Thanks Deb. I have had some experience with dealing with a well known 'most humble pastor' up close and personal in the mega world. Since I was up close and personal, I knew it was a sham. A persona and stage image that was carefully protected and crafted. Like the president, he would rather not know things so he could keep his humble stance. What this meant is that he was surrounded with henchmen and sychophants who did the dirty work so he could stay 'humble' yet totally in control. I was one of them for a few months until I could no longer live with myself. Of course, I was privy to the purple rage episodes in his office many times over those few months. The 'take that person down but don't tell me how you do it' directives. But the people in the pews worshipped him. And were happy in their ignorance and felt more spiritual because they had a humble man of God on stage. Now he is retired but has a business out teaching young men how to build huge churches. They pay for his advice. Thanks Deb. I have had some experience with dealing with a well known ‘most humble pastor’ up close and personal in the mega world. Since I was up close and personal, I knew it was a sham. A persona and stage image that was carefully protected and crafted. Like the president, he would rather not know things so he could keep his humble stance. What this meant is that he was surrounded with henchmen and sychophants who did the dirty work so he could stay ‘humble’ yet totally in control. I was one of them for a few months until I could no longer live with myself.

Of course, I was privy to the purple rage episodes in his office many times over those few months. The ‘take that person down but don’t tell me how you do it’ directives.

But the people in the pews worshipped him. And were happy in their ignorance and felt more spiritual because they had a humble man of God on stage. Now he is retired but has a business out teaching young men how to build huge churches. They pay for his advice.

]]> By: Deb http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/02/08/c-j-mahaney-and-sin-he-uses-a-period-instead-of-a-semicolon/#comment-329 Deb Tue, 09 Feb 2010 12:22:15 +0000 http://thewartburgwatch.com/?p=526#comment-329 Excellent comments, Former SG Pastor and Lydia! Excellent comments, Former SG Pastor and Lydia!

]]> By: Lydia http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/02/08/c-j-mahaney-and-sin-he-uses-a-period-instead-of-a-semicolon/#comment-328 Lydia Tue, 09 Feb 2010 12:05:02 +0000 http://thewartburgwatch.com/?p=526#comment-328 C.S. Lewis once wrote, "A man is never as proud as when striking an attitude of humility". In other words, you can be the most humble person in the world until you claim it. C.S. Lewis once wrote, “A man is never as proud as when striking an attitude of humility”.

In other words, you can be the most humble person in the world until you claim it.

]]> By: Former SG Pastor http://thewartburgwatch.com/2010/02/08/c-j-mahaney-and-sin-he-uses-a-period-instead-of-a-semicolon/#comment-327 Former SG Pastor Tue, 09 Feb 2010 05:31:06 +0000 http://thewartburgwatch.com/?p=526#comment-327 Well done, WW! To sum it all up: CJ Mahaney - a legend in his own mind! Well done, WW!

To sum it all up: CJ Mahaney – a legend in his own mind!

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